Did 3repx2 sets of 30 meter sprints with soccer cleats on from lying prone on the ground start. (Also did 3 flying 40’s)
Timer was at the finish line and started the watch as soon as she said go…
Average times were anywhere from 4.0-4.3 with the average around 4.1-4.2
How are these times for a lying start reacting to the starter at the finish 30 meters away?
What would this correlate to over 50 and 60 meters would you think?
My PB in the timed 30 meter in blocks was 3.9 back when I was competitive in 97. I think I am doing pretty good so far but would like your advice
I think I have easy 4.0’s from blocks right now. Reacting to the starter 30 meters away and getting up from a prone position has to make a difference hehehe
chris you are talking about lying start over 50-60m,right? say you are doing 4.00 for LS 30m,depending on your top speed give yourself 3.00-3.2 for the last 30m.its kinda hard to evaluate it properly as we don’t kinow what your flying 30m is or what level you are at
I am lying on the ground with my head at the start.
Timer who is at the finish line yells go and presses the timer
I get up off the ground and sprint 30 meters where the timer then stops the clock.
Surely this would be slower than a block start? It certainly feels slower having to pick myself up off the ground and then sprint versus exploding out of the blocks.
Also how much time does it take the starters voice to carry the 30 meters before I hear it and react to the command?
Those types of starts you describe are much slower than block starts. By the time you even get to your feet the guy with blocks will be two meters out and accelerating away. It’s a good drill, but if you’re going to time it, I would only compare times with other starts in a similar fashion.
Yeah, I really don’t have a clue since I haven’t compared times in lying starts to block ones, but I have done a lot of both and I imagine you would be running better than 3.9 easily even with the same speed once you get the block technique down. Also since the timer is yelling and GO and holding the watch I don’t think the .24 rule applies. There could be a little extra or a little less time I would think so its not as accurate as FAT but I don’t think its definitely slower.
Great thanks guys, that is what I thought. I was only performing them to practice staying low during the start. Once I get my regular blocks shipped up to me I’ll try them from the blocks and compare. If I can run 3.9-4.1 FAT I “should” be good for 6.9-7.1 FAT depending on how the latter half of the race goes for me.
Cheers,
Chris
If you had the starter yell out go and press the watch simultneously 30m away, then you can safely deduct 0.12 from the time. For example, 4.25 becomes 4.13.
My experience with such timing is to deduct 0.12 for 30m, 0.24 for 60m and 0.4 for 100m to allow for the sound to travel to the runner to react to. As indicated in a previous article, I believe this form of timing is much more accurate than hand timing with a gun and comparable to electronic timing for those who do not possess electronic equipment.
As far as your 60m potential is concerned, this will depend on your ability to accelerate to top speed and hold form.
Like every other test, you need to test yourself and improve it. Again, a pb over 30m is good, another pb over 60m is even better, and the ability to hold form over the last 40m will guarantee a great pb for 100m. Guides a great, but getting out there and doing it a number of personal bests in regard to numerous running tests (30m, 60m and so on) will be the only way you can achieve your potential. In other words, each portion of the 100m has to be worked on; that being acceleration, top speed and holding form.
My best times in the 30m are 3.62sec i done that time in my trainners with a 2meter flying start on a indoor track. That is the only time i have done it.
i have took up the 400m this year along with my 200meters.
And he did it with only 4 hours of sleep each night. Pretty impressive.
They sell starters cap guns for only 17.95 on mfathletic.com. I’m going to order one. I think that will be really great for getting close to electronic times. Spartacus, with a gun would you say that the same rule applies or it takes less time to travel the distance.
(I don’t take physics until next year.:))
Originally posted by pete
And he did it with only 4 hours of sleep each night. Pretty impressive.
They sell starters cap guns for only 17.95 on mfathletic.com. I’m going to order one. I think that will be really great for getting close to electronic times. Spartacus, with a gun would you say that the same rule applies or it takes less time to travel the distance.
(I don’t take physics until next year.:))
What the hell are cap guns, are you talking about the guns that the starters use at the beginning of the race.
Obviously the best way to time is electronic timing with a gun. I was merely reponding to articles that were comparing hand times over 30m with 60m and 100m predictions and suggested an alternative method.
There are many ways to time, including hand timing with a gun!!!. One may even time an athlete from when he or she moves and add around 0.4- 0.5 sconds to allow reaction time for both the runner and timer to get a time comparable with predictions for electronic timing.
I have merely suggested a way that I believe is comparable to electronic timing when timing one individual at a time without the need for equipment and several timers.
