Heart Rate Variability, Omega Wave, and ARP

Don’t be such a rude moron! Blimey someone tries to help you and others out and you moan? If you don’t give a shit piss offf- simple as!


Hi Angela! Thanks for responding, I hope you are enjoying the snow.

  1. I followed the suggestions you made in The Jane Project, but I need to cut back on bread. I get it from a friend who is hardcore artisanal and bakes in his backyard. Try them out if you can, their miche and raisin bread are out of this world awesome :)(http://thecliffsidehearth.blogspot.com/)

  2. My water intake is probably subpar. I will increase my daytime consumption. What do you suggest consuming during indoor workouts where the temperature is neutral? Mostly water? Some kind of water fortified with electrolytes?

  3. The only thing I will use to aid sleep is ZMA- I am a big fan. Sleep is sometimes interrupted, but I often sleep through the night until my alarm. I have always struggled to get to bed at a reasonable hour, I’m probably averaging 6.5 hours per night, which is below my needs for sure. I will start logging sleep.

  4. I have been foam rolling this year, incorporating it as part of my warmup. I am a fan of ice and hot and cold showers, and have been getting massages on a more regular basis (almost time for my annual trip to see Waldemar). I am much less tight and sore this year, which is a major improvement.

  5. I’d like to at least learn how to give a half decent massage and have a clearer picture of the musculoskeletal system. If it was interesting enough, I could see myself continuing to take courses.

Thank you for all your advice, and hope to see you at the track soon.


One of the things that I found interesting about the ithlete was that it seems to be compatible with pretty much any Polar HRM strap. This made me think that older Polar watches (like my RS200SD and many others) might be able to output raw data that could be subsequently imported into Kubios.

There are a ton of shareware programs out there that support stripping the raw data out of previous Polar watches (like Polar RS200 decoder available here). I will download the RS200 decoder, fool around with it and see if the files can be imported. It’s just a temporary solution, but worth trying. For someone on a budget, this could work a treat!

I would love to see CF.com team up with a software developer and start hammering out some apps. Seriously! Some of these programs are ridonkulously easy to write!

Fresh food made at home is wonderful
Whole foods from the earth the best
Clean water drink often filtered by you / try Brita
your goal for sleep is wake without an alarm
next goal get more sleep before midnight if possible
if you are struggling to wake up is this not a clue to quality or volume of sleep or perhaps you are not adapting to something in the training
foam compresses try pvc large pipe or Travel Roller I love
keep us posted

IS this the polar version?


and the Suunto?
I could only find the T6D. Not sure it does HRV, unless that is the body analysis wit 7 parameters…


Yes - either of those HRM’s. You’ll see it says either:

  • R-R recording, or
  • Beat-by-beat recording

It will record the time interval between beats measured in milliseconds. Kubios HRV can import them as either a text file or a specific file exported from the Suunto.

I ordered the Polar. Should be here mid week. Will update on how it goes and will probably post data as I am able to do so.

Sounds great! I’m leaning toward the Polar too.

Polar is the best option IMO…

That’s not been my experience.

The watch better work first time … as their customer service is worse than non-existent.


My past experiences trying to use Polar software have been uniformly terrible. Their actual products are terrific, but they aren’t intuitive to use for the average weekend warrior.

It will be interesting to see what kind of apps are developed for smartphones, as I think in a couple of years they could start to take a huge chunk out of Polar’s business, as user-friendliness is not their strong suit.


I have made a policy of not purchasing Polar

Polar has a good watch and a complicate/terribile software, but if we speak about RR recording specially for dynamic/static HRV, It’s an amazing product!
Then Polar ProTrainer export RR file in ASCII/txt format…no so bad!
I’ve used 20 polar RS800 for monitoring a soccer team with great results!
High level of personalization, every athlete had his watch and belt…my experience was really good.
I agree about the software (It has an interesting integrated function for HRV analysis) , but I’ve not used it alot.

PS: polar has a good test “programs” for training and stress monitoring!

I have both the Polar 810i and the Suunto T6c. I have had good results with both. The only beef I had with the polar was the infra-red interface to transmit data from the watch to computer. It can sometimes be finicky. The Suunto has a hard-wire USB connection. I don’t know if more recent Polar watches have a hard wire connection. If you don’t have an infrared port on your computer, you will have to purchase the IR cable from Polar.

I love my polar rs800.
I find the testing programs easy to use and follow.
It may not spit out a 100 different reasons as to why you are tired or feeling good, in any case, it really does not need to.
I have found, if it says you’re recovered - then you are.
If it says keep training, then keep training
If it says your tired and should rest up for a few days, It’s spot on.

The Fitness testing - or Vo2 max testing - may not be Spot on if compared to say Treadmill testing - but it is consistent if you follow the parameters correctly. Which means, if you compare it to itself, it works a treat. (not very valid for pure sprinters though) - but it is a great test for Distance athletes.

I did the Treadmill Concini test a few wks ago with this watch - Fantastic graphs, and easy to read and follow. Very easy to pick up where my La+ threshold is. Again - pointless for Pure sprinters, but great for Distance folks - and useful info for 400 guys

I should point out, the Polar Pro Trainer 5 software is heaps better than the online software for most other polar watches.

I might trial the Suunto T6c
I know the Polar RR intervals have been validated, but I’ll trial the T6c and see how it goes

I hope to do a validity study comparing a Suunto T6c with a 3-lead ECG at my university. If all is successful, the Suunto will be used in research with athletes.

My unit should arrive any day. For those who use this is it sensitive to muscle strains, back pain etc? I.e. athlete has back pain or knee pain, would the reading show not recovered.?