Dwain Chambers' secret weapon

Expert Discussion Advanced Sprint Training
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Can anybody explain this given the information discussed earlier?

“Doing this kind of analysis on world class athletes tells you a lot of things, for example, on acceleration development days we may do 5x3x10-40m with 3-5min minutes between runs. Well with guys like Donovan Bailey, Oberdaley Thompson, Karim Street-Thompson, Bruny Surin, they would be pumping 18mmols of lactate at the end of that workout whereas a world class quarter miler at the end of the race is only pumping 10-11mmol. So lactate isn’t the enemy. Actually if you study the Krebs cycle lactate is very anabolic so we want lactate, we just want to control what days we get it, how much and what we do when it is in the blood stream. The better the power speed athlete the greater the amounts of lactate they can produce. I mean we have throwers on the Olympic platform and when they are done with the lifts they are pumping 12-14mmols of lactate and they haven’t run a step. Also on block workout days we then go to the Olympic platform and we setup curves of lactate infusion because one of the problems we have in sprinting, at the world class level, is four races in two days at the big championships and so there are huge slopes to these blood lactate levels.”

From:
http://www.down-right.co.uk/2008_08_01_archive.html

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There are several things:

  1. there are many ways (activities) to pump high lactate levels. What is the most specific for a sprinter : reps of 300m or reps of 30m? Thinks about the intensity (% of 1RM) for the two workouts. Like Charlie says, think in term of speed end special endurance.
  2. at the end of a 400m race, the lactate level is around 10mmol/l, but the level raises up to 18mmol/l 12min later, then 30min after the race it is going down to about 10mmol/l. What does that say regarding the rest time for Special Endurance workouts?
  3. there is a high corelation between lactate level and 400m result, but there are exceptions, like Koch. Lactate max level is not the sole issue, there is the rate of the slope, how fast does she clean her system. That’s why she was able to do that 6x300m workout in 36sec with 10min rest. However, her lactic tolerance was probably low, as she has never been able to run the last 100m of the 400m under 13sec (unlike girls like Kratochvilova, Bryzgina, Freeman, Szewinska or Sanya Richards). Does it make sense?
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I like Charlie’s aproach here. Think more about the distance, chosen % of race pace, for performance sake, more so than for physiolagies’ (spelling?) sake. Even though both will be worked a lot, with either philosophy. (But to different degrees?) (Sorry Charlie, if I miss-interpret you on that.)

To the great Pierejean’ and others on this thread; my brain is not a computer any more, it can only learn by feeling, experiance, and intuition confirmed by experiance or a dam good consultant on the internet (why I visit this place.) Even if one was to work out the best mathematical model according to physiological principles, would it really be the best training set up? Maybe for some.

But here’s my amateurish point; (you’ll be able to tell that physiology of chemicals in the body is not my best subject)

Lets take the 100meters…(I’m going to have to be hypothetical but you’ll understand my point even if you dissagree)

Lets say it uses two energy systems…
Energy sytem 1 lasts 2 to 6 seconds, and actually starts to rapidly decline after 5 seconds.
Energy system 2 is allready being metabolized, or whatever, as early as 5 seconds in to the race, and creates a ‘meaningfull’ amount of energy in second half of race.

If it were all as straight forward as above. But there are other things to consider, such as the momentum of speed coming in to the second half of the sprint, (which somewhat ‘carries’ you and still influances the second half of the sprint, even after that energy system gets somewhat depleted.) This tiny detail, and fraction of influance, may be why some coaches would prefer to think of all training along the lines of ‘performance parameters’ rather than physiological ones. Well, it’s easier on my brain that way, any how. That, and the lack of a running track where I live, so I have to improvise anyway.

On top of that you have other factors. We know that training on grass is beneficial for the tendons, even though it is slightly slower speed than on the running track. What to do then? re-calculate the speed needed to reach ‘such and such’ threshold? Compared to when on the track. What about a fast run up a steep hill, which changes the whole ‘x’ speed gives ‘y’ pump etc… For me to think about the minutia of the physiological details would be a nightmare. It is a lot easier to think about general performance and ‘feel’ without getting out the calculater days before. This doesn’t mean this aproach is best for everyone of course.

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Who is “the man himself” that you have quoted here?

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Sprinters should NOT sleep in low oxygen tents, period. The researach shows that this can cause a significant loss in muscle mass and strength. Sleeping in a hypoxic tent can significantly increase the heart rate and this can cause a caloric deficit, which puts the body into a catabolic state. However, IHT(Intermittent Hypoxic Training) in conjunction with the consumption of the specific nutrients necessary as the buliding blocks for the production of new red blood cells can significantly enhance recovery during and after training. In short, this can enable sprinters to obtain a deeper training load. The benefits of this technology are similar (although not quite as effective) to the use of EPO.

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Thank you for your posts on the subject.
This is very interesting to me for a variety of reasons.
I have been running across more and more people who are converging on similar thinking from different directions and for different reason- some for sport performance and some for disease treatment- particularly for cancer.
To my mind, all of this ultimately revolves around interferometry at the most basic cellular level and moves far beyond EPO alone.
As you may already know, Dr Priori from France was looking into interferometry in the 1960s as a cancer cure and was suppressed. (not to open a can of worms but it has been suggested that much of this research has been weaponized by various governments)
Dr Irv Dardik (once with the USOC Med Commission) is also working with both cancer and heart patients by using “breath dep” training (maximal bursts completed with all possible breath exhaled to the limit, followed by a seated break to force the HR down as fast and far as possible)
This is in hopes to force diseased cells to reconvert from anaerobic to aerobic.
Some of this can be monitored with the Omega Wave, Tilt Test, etc.
Hopefully, more people like you will be working in this area and sharing findings.

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over 200m or 400m?

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it was in the 400m

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Victor Conte posted this on sprintzone.