Do sprinters do deep squats like this?
I don’t know what you’re asking. Sprinters in general? Elite sprinters? Broad question there…
Elite sprinters. Like ben johnson maurice green etc. I don’t think that elite sprinters do it powerlifting style that is like plie squats.
Will there be any warning, befor a training acident like this, this has moved me.
The effects of using a knee wrap in training
What has that to do with the video of the weightlifter I posted. The weightlifter is showing better form and confidence and he is squatting that weight with ease.
I wish that powerlifter is fine now and lifting again. 
I don’t like powerlifting suits and knee wraps etc and their super wide squat.
Lifting raw and full range of motion is the only way.
The lifter in the first video is an Olympic weightlifter. The clip came from an Iron Mind video
You should always squat full.
Why? I myself do squat full, however, many videos of pro-athletes and throwers etc that I’ve seen squat half or quarter. Many sprinters do not squat full either. Whatever helps you acheive your goal and limit injury is how you should squat.
Squatting half is more dangerous than full squat for your knowledge it’s just people with bad techniques that don’t get it. I want to ask you something would you bench your bench press only half way? Half squats produce half results. Is that you in the picture? Great Jump
Oh really? for my knowledge? haha.
Bench pressing half way? I think those are called lock-out presses (or board presses) actually, where a lifter does the top half of the portion or less to help his lockout, which almost every single world class bench-presser does, for your knowledge. Half squats DO NOT produce half results.
If I can full squat 100kg, but half squat 125kg. Why is that half squat going to produce less results?? Where did you read this study? Flexmag? Almost every single video I have seen of sprinters and throwers usually shows them half squatting or higher. Is it producing half results for them? Yes olympic lifters squat super deep and they are super explosive, but they have to squat deep, they have to be able to get out of the hole when the catch the weight deep, its different.
Yes they use it for lockout power because the bench shirts help them get the first half part of the bench press pretty easily compared to the rest locking part where the triceps plays big role. That’s why you hear or read shirted bench pressers tell you the most important muscles to bench press heavy weights is your triceps.
You think you are very smart when you talk to me like that with arrogancy.
If you lessen the distance that doesn’t mean you got immediately stronger just because you lifted more weight under certain rules that’s just basic physic and they are using it to their advantage because of the current rules of powerlifting.
Powerlifters round their back in the bench press because they want to lessen the distance and heavy weight lifters try to get as much weight around their bodyweight muscles/fat to bench the bar shorter distance or to squat shorter distance etc.
They do very wide squats (plie squats) what they call powerlifting squat / sumo squat because again it lessen the distance at least 15inches to allow you lift more weights.
I don’t know why sprinters jumpers etc they squat only to parallel maybe some of them have heard the myth that deep squatting is bad for your knees and if they do powerlifting squats maybe they are trying to strengthen the back chain/glutes and not the whole legs etc.
But are you saying that you are doing tricep lockouts only? Because if we’d test you in bench press then you couldn’t bench a lot because of your other weaker muscles.
That applies to the squat also if you do the same thing.
When you full squat the hip joints absorb most of the stress and takes the stress aways off the knees plus squatting deep will strengthen the vastus medialis which is the supporter of the knee but of course if you don’t know how to full squat correctly and hurt you knee/knees that’s because of your lack of technique/knowledge.
Louie Simmons has had excellent success with his powerlifters because they use these shortening techniques in efficiency with hard training and maybe drugs I don’t know.
Powerlifters are looking for numbers to win under the rules they are training they don’t care about anything else. Most of westside powerlifter compete in organizations like apf/wpo where you see 1/4 squats the excessive gear etc. They are thinking they are getting way much stronger than people before them but the truth is they are not because people have limits and we have been near them long time ago but I am not saying we have achieved these limits of our bodies.
I talk about westside lifters because most of the biggest numbers are made by them.
Half squats will produce half results if you want to strengthen your whole leg in balance and not strengthening only the upper part of you squat which is the strongest.
Yes even 1/2 or 1/4 have their time. So what if you have seen sprinters doing them? Does that make it automatically acceptable to do 1/2 or 1/4 instead of full squat? In my opinion no. Yes even these 1/2 1/4 momvemnts have their time.
I think you are pretty knowledgable guy but don’t be arrogant I didn’t intend anything. I think now you understand why I said half squats produce half results now.
Methodman, I think you should realize that nobody knows everything, and this includes yourself. 
Both Dr. Bondarchuk and Yuri Verkhoshansky (the father of plyometrics) support the use of half squats over full squats for athletes who require antigravitational strength (jumping ability) and have already acquired a sufficient training base. Half squats permit the use of a greater load over the jumping, or in this case acceleration, specific ROM. This means that for a qualified athlete, they actually provide a better training stimulis than full squats do.
Having said that, loading on the spine and the knees is greater in a half squat than a full, but this should not be a problem as long as loading is kept tolerable and training is conducted in an intelligent manner.
Again, don’t talk down to people when you yourself could potentially still be in the dark on a topic.
Your talking to an ex-powerlifter first of all, so you don’t need to explain to me how the bench press is performed, hah. Arrogance, actually your the one who started off with “for your knowledge” bs. Let’s stay on topic. I’m completely aware that shortening the distance and upping the weights doesn’t make you stronger, that was my point. I said what’s the difference between a 100kg full squat and a 125kg half-squat? I wasn’t stating that the half-squat is better. You know what the answer is? There probably isn’t much difference! Since you travel more distance in the full squat. Your probably doing as much work in both if they are both say a 1RM. A 1RM is a 1RM regardless of how far your travelled.
And I still state, half-squats do not produce half results. Your jumping all over the place with this powerlifting stuff, but your not really making a point.
I do agree with the end of your post, with how 1/4 or 1/2 squats can have their place in the program, but shouldn’t replace a full squat. But really, how much proof do we have to state that a full squat is better than a 1/2 squat for a sprinter? I have never seen actually proof. I’ve read things by authors stating how a full squat will develop the leg better, how it will make you faster or jump higher, but the majority of pro-athletes and sprinters that I have seen videos of or read their training programs are not squatting full. I think we agree on this.
Really? I have battled this idea for years… still not sure. I seem to have seen best results in sprinters with squats to a 90-100degree knee angle. not full squats (~75 degree knee angle) and not 1/4 squats (~145 degree knee angle).
the problem is, for many coaches half squats are parallel…for other, full squat is parallel…
Both Dr. Bondarchuk and Yuri Verkhoshansky (the father of plyometrics) support the use of half squats over full squats for athletes who require antigravitational strength (jumping ability) and have already acquired a sufficient training base. Half squats permit the use of a greater load over the jumping, or in this case acceleration, specific ROM. This means that for a qualified athlete, they actually provide a better training stimulis than full squats do.
CF said that sprinting is back dom so why not stick to 90degree squats with sprinters?
CF said that sprinting is back dom so why not stick to 90degree squats with sprinters?
rj24 I have to agree with you because he is looking for the best results in minimal time and probably the same muscles are going to be used in jumping. Full squat is way harder than half squat to learn and to hoist big weights with it is even harder that is to me I don’t know about you. But if you are already very stong it won’t matter if you half squat or full squat because it’s not going to help you run faster. After all sprinting is low load high speed strenth sport. In full squats you use your hamstring and buttocks more effectively.
And rj24 no human knows everything and that includes me ofcourse I didn’t mean anything bad to T.J. Perry but hey if you didn’t want to take my advice or took it badly that’s your problem.
But again I posted in my eariler post and said I didn’t mean anything else just though of giving advice if I really had something against you I wouldn’t give you an advice.
Hey I don’t care who you are if you are a powerlifter or ballerina I am just speaking my mind here.
Thanks for all.