THe bulgarian WL system is also one that is addmittedly not a “clean” on as far as IOC standards go which must be taken into account.
Also it is the type of system that athletes are worked until they either adapt or they break. Realize that for many of these athlete WL was a way out of poverty for them and their families because the goverment took care of elite atheltes. If they did not train or got injured they went home and lived very poorly.
How many coaches have a stable full of athletes to take those type of chances with?
Please note that Abadjiev’s training system is NOT the bulgarian training you seem to refer to.
In the lecture it is “clearly” stated how Abadjiev dramatically cut the training volumes (reducing total daily weight load to 4 tons for his elite weighlifters),with a similarly dramatic raise in daily intensity.
Please mention one single country whose weightlifting world has stayed historically “clean”.
That gives you a dimension of how possibly far we are from realizing our full human athletic potential through maximal training efficiency as well as efficacy,and how partial and constricted is our current understanding of the reality of training and adapting.
Why would your sessions involve any pain unless you are training for 400m! Speed sessions are fun! You get to run fast and rest. Very little pain involved. Sounds to me like you are describing a intensive tempo or special endurance session. I’m not sure if I would use either with a tripple jumper.
When you get used to running fast you will need these kinds of breaks. My guys generally need at least 15min between flat out 60s let alone a flat out 200m!
You’ve put in some excallent posts on this thread, I especially liked the informative one about Ivan’s phillosophy. Not to sound big headed, but most of Ivan’s phillosophy falls inline with the instinctive idea’s I’ve had for some time. But now, I have some science to rationalize my instinct (thanks in part, to your post), thus giving me more confidence to install the phillosophy into my own preperations.
Remember that as kenteris trained in Grease where the weather is often very hot, he would not over cool down between reps. Also, the extended rest periods allow the training to take up more hours of the day (without increasing volume of work). I have an idea that by spreading the stimulas over longer periods & seperate sessions, you may also be able to take further advantage of circadium rythms-body clock- fluctuations etc… whcih change throughout the day. Also, it is known that multiple session stimulas may improve synaptic facilitation of movement. This also falls inline with the Olympic weightlifters preperation which had 3 snatch sessions, 3 C&J sessions, and 2 squat sessions each training day.
Although most people on the forum do not strictly follow the suggested Greek methods for the majority of the year … during the competition period in some respects we adher to most of these rules - rest and race. Weights are generally more upper body focused and where training is done it generally takes the form of tempo. Now tempo wouldn’t be considered part of Ivan’s philosophy but then again it might be so low that he might discount it as work all together? For him it would be like 50%1RM with little attempt to be explosive. I guess these guys did warm up exercises before they lifted? Perhaps this is what tempo could be?
Tempo as from Charlie’s definition OVER TIMEIS “so low” a stimulus that might be discounted as work altogether!
You can search and look for a rather recent post of mine about the concept of “familiarity” of a training stimulus as discussed with Charlie in Toronto.
But as any running stimulus other than the most specific one,it would NOT apply to Tzekos’ training,as well as nothing like that is at all contemplated in Abadjiev’s weightlifting training,as from the information I do have,at least,and in perfect coherence with the scientific principles above exposed.
“The part of the muscle which is contracting is called sarcomere. The longer it is, the faster it reacts, the faster it contracts. The shorter it is, it could provide enormous strength, but in a longer period of time.” … Ivan
This is another part that interests me. oes it mean a sprinter would want to lengthen their muscles? That would seem to contracdict the theories that some muscle tightness is ideal for sprinters unless you can make the muscle simmultaniously long and tight.
Taking it to the extreeme, would the ballet dancers flexability be detrimmental to a sprinter? There seems to be a contradiction.
So, should I incorperate an extensive mobility and muscle lengthening program?
I did hamstring release stretch a while back, and I think I released to much tension out of the muscle. The next day, even walking nearly injured my lower hammy tendons and ligaments.
SO, when I stretch, should I maintain a little bit of tension in the muscle, or should I do release stretches instead?
My current thinking is to do release stretches for hip-flexors, but bog-standard stretches for the other muscle groups.
