Chinese drivers are the pits

BEIJING, Nov 9 Reuters - A bus crashed into a truck in east China’s Shandong province killing 12 people and injuring 38, state media reported today.

The bus was carrying 55 passengers when it collided with an empty oil tanker on Wednesday at a highway intersection in Dingtao county, Xinhua News Agency said.

[b]China has the world’s deadliest roads, due to routine disregard for traffic regulations, lax enforcement of laws and a cavalier attitude towards safety.

Last year nearly 90,000 people died in traffic accidents and 400,000 were injured, or about one death every five minutes. [/b]

WOULD THIS SURPRISE ANYONE WHO HAS EVER TRIED TO DRIVE ANYWHERE NEAR CHINATOWN IN ANY CITY IN THE WORLD?

THEY ARE THE WORST DRIVERS ON THE ROAD WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT. kk (speaking as one who was nearly killed by two oriental gentlemen driving a minibus over a bridge today using the fucking lane-line as a guideline: the idea apparently is to drive with wheels either side of this line. Then, when you get to the electronic toll booth, you swerve across to the booth that provides change. But you make your ground from lane 1 to lane 3 within 20 yards and then slam the brakes on at the change booth. Just another day in Gotham. kk)

Who was it? John Laws was blasting them on Radio a couple of months ago - something like (china drivers are the worst drivers on the plannet - im not speaking racist, or what i assume, im speaking plain fact)
hahaha, tv was all over him, he didnt give a crap (does he ever?) he was like (so?? they are!)

good to see you made it out alive kk:D

and 90% are caused by women! :eek:

Damn, that was sexist. :o Lol, I had to say it.

Apologies

this reminds me, an asian lady almost nailed my car with her mini van the other day.

what more antedotcal evidance do we need?

LOL, i like the Chinatown analogy but I cant go by that, the whole city of Boston drives like that.

The Guy.

chinese/pakastani/they all stinks, they shud walk

Asian includes Indian, Pakistan, Iranian, Iraqi and all of the Middle East. The term Asian includes thousands of different cultural and ethnic groups. Using the phrase “Asians are bad drivers” couldn’t possibly be true because that would refer to 1/2 of the world’s population.

I emphathise with your near death experience. I too have freely used the term ‘bleep Chinese drivers’.Usually if I have company in the car, I will refer to my spacial awareness deficiency theory and Chinese people.However this is not the case. They are bad drivers through cultural norms.

The term orient refers to thousands of different cultural and ethnic groups. I assume you were referring to orient as in Chinese. The Chinese probably hold the title for the worst drivers. However orients or Asians don’t collectively hold that title.

in general, in america, FOB’s from 3rd world countires are all pretty bad drivers.

edit: you can split hairs if you want, but i was refering to orientals when i said asians.

Orientals are Asians - they are both umbrella terms for numerous nations, cultural & ethnic groups. Asian and Oriental can brown skinned (Indian), Olive skinned (Middle Eastern) or yellow skinned (Chinese). So really the generalisations that you use are so generic that no truth can exist in your claims.

Statistically speaking race is not a factor when considering road fatalities. Age and gender are the most significant factors. Male’s under 25 are the largest group involved in road fatalities.

Third world countries (a term no longer used today) - includes Latin America, Africa, Oceania, and Asia, and much of the former Communist Soviet block. So according to your statement that "n general, in america, FOB’s from 3rd world countires are all pretty bad drivers." Given the fact that whites, blacks
Asians, Latin Americans, and Slavics are from these developing nations, that would mean they’re all bad drivers too.

Makes sense does it?

ps: The err of stereotyping.

Who sais race is not a factor when determining road fatalities?

Has there ever been a racial breakdown of traffic fatalities done throughout the world or are you just assuming that race is not a factor?

Those comments are the most ridiculous racist vile I have ever read on here.

Guess what ?

When governments collect statistics on road fatalities race is not taken into account. THAT WOULD BE BILLED RACISM. According to the Australian Transport Safety Bureau - deaths on roads fatalities are the highest amongst males under 26 and on Friday, Saturday nights.

http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/2007/mrf_2006.aspx

Who sais race is not a factor when determining road fatalities?

Until statistics are collected on race & road fatalities, no correlation can exist between the two. And no statistics would ever be compiled because that would be clearly racism - and no government department would ever go there.

According to IQ tests scores, blacks score lower than whites in America. Does that mean blacks are less intelligent than whites? Of course not. The deviation in test scores are a result of socio-economic factors. Additionally there are more black in jails than whites. Does this mean that blacks are predisposed to be criminals? Obviously it doesn’t. A prejudiced police force and judicial system operate on stereotypes that racially vilify blacks. It’s the same racial stereotyping regarding race and driving that your question implies.

Maybe thinking would come in handy in the future.

I was asking the question, not making a statement. I just wanted to know if anyone kept such statistics.

Obviously if race is not taken into account when looking at traffic accidents,then no correlation can be made between the two.

Do you know for a fact that racial breakdowns of traffic accidents don’t occur in other parts of the world?

I certainly don’t know the answer to that question.

Oh by the way I wont bite on your race baiting tactics. You can save it for someone else. I find people who use them sickening and narrow minded.

it’s still in use if you understand it, and can define it. and yes, i think that most FOB’s suck at driving, not because of a lack of ability, but rather from a lack of exposure.

I have no problem getting in the car with a 2nd or 3rd generation chinese person. try to stick me in a ford focus with someone who just came over from bejing and road the bus, or came from rural china and rode a bike everywhere, and watch me set a new PR in any distance 0 feet to 1 mile.

you really need to lay off this whole tilt you’re on about culture, racism, and the like. it is really a bit excessive and corrective beyond a point of helpfulness for a message board.

While on a bicycle, I was hit by a 40ish year old female Chinese lady who had been in Canada for about 10 months. She ran a stop sign, and was looking ONLY to the left while she did it. I broke a wrist and received several thousand dollars.

I’ve never seen a Chinese driver injured in a car accident…just the poor bastards on the receiving end. The Chinese seem to cause disasters, mostly to people who had become completely demented and were trying to avoid them.

I sat behind a Chinese guy in a BMW on my way to work this afternoon who stopped his car about 15 metres from the traffic light in a single-lane road. Every minute or so, he would roll forward about a metre or two, then stop. But because he wasn’t close enough to activate some mystery mechanism, our light refused to go green. We had 100m of cars lined up behind this clown. I wasn’t in any hurry, so I just waited behind with best behaviour. After the cross traffic had gone through twice, he finally got close enough to trigger the green. He had his right indicator flashing, then veered left and when he got to the next corner (to turn left) he veered right (with his left indicator still flashing). It was a superb effort.

FOBs- is a rather derogatory slang phrase applied to immigrants. It was coined for European immigrants to America who had just stepped off a ship. Nowadays immigrants get off planes not ships. Regardless in this part of the world its considered to be highly offensive and anti-vilification laws prevent the use of it.

As a whole American has much deeper racial issues than Australia. The recent hurricane Katrina exposes racism and inequality still in America. Its become normal to loosely throw around derogatory slangs “FOB”.

And by the way, silence fosters racism.

Well Sharmer it appears you are not only an immature thin skinned race baiter but you are also wrong in your assumption that no govt would ever collect data on traffic fatalities and then break them down by race.
I did a very quick google search and it seems that the USA for one does the break down of traffic fatalities by race. The National Highway traffic and safety administration is the bureau that comes up with the stats.

I did not notice a discernible gap between groups. And I didn’t expect to. This is why I asked the question in the first place. Conjecture and guess work is a poor substitute for facts.

Next time you should think twice before you make outlandish assumptions,and accusations towards people you don’t even know, and have never once spoken to.Especially when they are making innocuous, non threatining inquiries on topics such as these.

Remember the old quote These are not the exact words but it go's like this. ''Sometimes it is better to remain silent and have everyone think you are a fool , Than to speak up and give proof that they are right". 

Well you sure spoke up and you sure gave proof.

No apology expected or desired.

It’s people like you that keep the world filled with hate.

Rather sensitive ain’t you?

Well the Americans have unusual ethical & moral fabric. For instance you can walk into K mart and purchase a shot gun. In this part of the world - thats seems incomprehensible. So i guess collaborating race statistics is much easier to justify.

Statistically speaking Native Americans 6.5% and Hispanics 5.5% are involved in most road fatalities. Asians 2.2% and whites & blacks are just under 2%. Interesting you left out the fact Asians are involved in less road fatalities than Native Americans and Hispanics. Additionally Asians are less likely to drive intoxicated and drive without a license. In contrast Native Americans & Hispanics are most likely to drink & drive and drive without a license.

( Motor vehicle deaths as percentage of all deaths)

Well done the data you came across proves that in American the Asians are not the most dangerous drivers. The Hispanics and Native Americans are the most dangerous group. The entire premise of this debate has been debunked.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/809956.PDF

it looks like that just accounts for deaths rather than collisions by fault, or collisions in general. i dont know anyone killed by asian drivers, but i do know lots of people who have been hit by asian drivers. ive also watched them be completely incapable of parking, etc. i think the people straight out of asia are the ones who cant drive, rather than those who were born in america (ive never actually ridden with a bad asian driver, only seen them on the road).