He had a spotter most of the time but when I did it I didn’t help him up and he didn’t need it, just for insurance in case there was a problem. Mostly he was spotted by me or Desai or Mark and they would have done the same as me but he sometimes was spotted by others if I wasn’t there for some reason and I can’t vouch for anyone else in my absence. At times he may also have done it without a spotter but he wasn’t supposed to. I assume you would recognize us.