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1)Coach what’s full recovery(on 60 mt)?
2)Intensity,in my opinion,on 60 mt increasing with more rest between reps,is Ok?Or…
Clemson,
I agree overspeed GENERALLY works in swimming,but from my experience with some important provisos.
First in swimming we have the choice between towing devices and simpler fin swimming when choosing to implement an overspeed training program.
This choice itself brings about a whole set of important implications ranging from biomechanics to physiology issues,which by themselves would make some interesting discussion points around such a definite statement.
Secondly,and restricting the discussion to towing in the water,I have observed significative differences in results according to the stroke chosen for overspeed training. It appears to me that most results related to this training modality come when adopted with freestyle ,some with backstroke and butterfly ( provided proper technique and body position are maintained,and in the case of butterfly the stroke is elastic enough),very little -if any -in breaststroke.
So,apparently, the slower the nature of the stroke,the less overspeed in the water worked for us so far…
Thoughts?
No reason why it shouldn’t in swimming, given the difference in medium and velocity. The faster the swim and the higher the CNS effect of the swim, the more interesting this becomes. How do you tow them to keep the body position the same in the water?
The intensity rises throughout the training period in a split manner- 100% for the first 30m from early on, with the second 30 rising in intensity throughout the period as expressed by the additional distance accelerated into the run.
This will be covered in great detail in the new material to be released shortly.
What is this Charlie? Another Review or DVD?
the info will be in E-book format
Great stuff!
Can’t wait.
Oh yeh Charlie …
You know now that since you’ve told us that you’ll be annoyed every day from now on with posts like …
> “is it finished yet?”
> “When will it be out”
etc. etc. …
It’s kinda like being in a car with 2 year olds going to the zoo in the next state …
“Are we there yet Daddy?”
“Are we there yet Daddy?”
“Are we there yet Daddy?”
“Are we there yet Daddy?”
“Are we there yet Daddy?”
That works with 5 year olds too!
We’re working on a pile of E-material as well as another DVD which is based on a training-camp setting.
I can’t wait.
[Though speaking of DVD’s and 5 year olds … I’m like a 5 year old every evening going home to check the post - I’m still waiting on the first DVD, though Rupert said he’d ship it on the 16th of Septemeber, so it should be on its way. Can’t wait.]
The training camp idea sounds very good.
Can you give us a taste of some of the new areas that you’ll be covering?
How would this apply to LJ/TJ sprinting (runup/approach training) where the first 30m at 100% might not be a good move. Would you split these two up into completely different speed sessions/entities (pure accel. training vs. approach runs) or would you alter accel. distance for the apprach runs (20m+20-25m / 25m+15-20m, 30m+10-15m, 35m+5-10m) even thou acceleration is progressive, not full out from start.
Variation without altering distances for the approach runs might be achieved utilizing uphill and sledge runs. In this regard the “fancy” gadget/tricks can work rather well.
I would separate the sessions into pure speed/ accel work and separate approach run work.
[b]Clemson,
I agree overspeed GENERALLY works in swimming,but from my experience with some important provisos.
First in swimming we have the choice between towing devices and simpler fin swimming when choosing to implement an overspeed training program.
This choice itself brings about a whole set of important implications ranging from biomechanics to physiology issues,which by themselves would make some interesting discussion points around such a definite statement.
Secondly,and restricting the discussion to towing in the water,I have observed significative differences in results according to the stroke chosen for overspeed training. It appears to me that most results related to this training modality come when adopted with freestyle ,some with backstroke and butterfly ( provided proper technique and body position are maintained,and in the case of butterfly the stroke is elastic enough),very little -if any -in breaststroke.
So,apparently, the slower the nature of the stroke,the less overspeed in the water worked for us so far…
Thoughts? [/b]
My thoughts on overspeed and I will get into this with body position so charlie can hear the thoughts.
First is that the towing is done with Marty’s equipment or with a double cord for meters with myself. The belt is at the hips and very little mechanical change between them because the towing is done low to the pool deck to get very little artificial lift.
Second I think towing is more teaching then training and I use them very early in the season since most swim programs have problems sprinting fresh…including mine.
Third butterfly has a hand acceleration patterns that need overspead to improve …and towing helps here. Breastroke teaches to pop your hips faster and get into a streamline angle better.
Fins create problems if the rear wheel drive is to fast. In free the rotation of the kick is allways after the upperbody at elite levels in all distances…do you agree pakewi? I use three styles of fins and you can read about this in triathlete magazine in a few months. By the way can we do a training camp in Italy at your place next summer?
We tow them at the hips, and look for a high body position in the water with limited hydroplanning though.
Here is a link for further discussion:
http://www.coachesinfo.com/category/swimming/121/
And another one for those swimming coaches interested in the towing device itself:
Interesting points,Clemson.
First of all,yes you are welcome to come over if we manange to organize things well in advance and find reasonable solutions. Are You still intersted in Italian Swimming issues even after the latest disappointing Olympic results? :rolleyes:
I agree on the artificial lift minimisation point with towing,and on its possible use as a teaching tool at certain points and in limited quantities.
For these purposes I still maintain fins do help a lot though,without actually finding the problems you mention.
Also - at least in the sprints - I find a teaching emphasis on the easier overall kck movements and related body position frees a more natural and complete power application by the upperbody.