andrew howe

i cant really find anything about this guys training etc…does anyone know anything about how he trains…

it’s quite difficult beacuse his mum (she is his coach) is much reserved and does some disinformation with her training plan.
also the headcoach of jumping in national team doesn’t know what andrew does for some months in a year. we have only some infos about singles sessions but I don’t know how is usefull without a global vision.
sure when andrew was younger (18-19) she declared that they didn’t use at all weights, but I know personally a 400m specialist also in national team that see him squat with heavy weights. for WJC in grosseto (where
andrew won long jump and 200m) in winter he did sessions with 10x200m @22"x with relative short recovery. it’s described by his mum, because she used it as a example of his unflexibility, because she said that andrew was in very trouble but she forced him to finish. in Italy we know that he use a lot of plio (and maybe this has produced the 2 microfractures at foot when he was under 18). but also for this tool they don’t explain tipology of exercises and volume. they also use overspeed device (we don’t know if is completelly true but for goteborg to “recovery” fast the fitness of andrew for 200m, they do near of championship a block week with overspeed for 5 days in a row; after this shock period
andrew ran easy a 20"5x FAT a test of efficency for national coach but two weeks later in tournament he performed not well).

For a documentary on his son made by a italian tv channel, his mum declared that his mentor was tommie smith (becouse also she was an hurdler of international level) and maybe she use some of his methods to train. sure for winter months they go to california for training. no one in italy know what kind of training they use during this period (also the T&F federation), this year andrew said when he came back that he did a very high volume of stairs and bounding for develope his power.
but for first time from 5 years, this winter he lost a competition with other italian jumpers, during indoor national he jumped near 7.6x only for silver medal and he justified his performance with different approach that it will back results in olimpic final.

His mom…I remember a song:)rsrsrs

eros this is another story :smiley: maybe it’s better if we speak about some other “narrations” from VdV (vigna di valle, the place where is based the track club of andrew) as repetitions of 100m (althought when this grass field was measured it’s discovered that it was 101m) in barefoot in 10"7. this tipe of training was doing by andrew during last part of his recovery from 2° microfracture at foot during 2° round of 200m in athens. I don’t know if it’s totally true but it was confirmed by different persons not involved in his staff team.

How many reps did he supposedly do of this? I think Howe is a remarkable pure athlete. I think if he could polish his sprinting technique a little he could do seriously more damage though! Any more infomation or anecadotes on his training would be interesting!

wow, yeah thats awesome info thanks alot…

now pedroso is kinda done, howe is the jumper i most watch to try an emulate technique etc, i like his aggession, i need that also when i jump. I also like his hitch kick technique.

So basically he does alot of running it seems in training…do we know anything about his jump sessions? He also looks very muscular now in his legs and upper body compared to when he was a junior so im sure he does alot of weights now.

Andrew is an amazing talent. he ran 6 to 10 reps for different workouts. only an example, during a local meeting (very early season) a 400meter runners of his track club, said that he couldn’t perform well in 400m and he “would be died” in last 100m, because he hadn’t the stamina.
he immediatelly changed from long jump competition to 400m race and won with 46"00 FAT. maybe isn’t a so spettacular time if you think that he was a 20" low 200m. but the incredibile thing is that when he was in last 100m he turned to the tribune and he waved his hand to the audience much time, made comical grimaces and he showed full controll and easy run till the finish. and that year andrew focused only on long jump and he didn’t train at all for 200m so he didn’t do any specific train for special endurance and stamina. this is why in european cup of the 2006 he ran also 4x400 relay. In Italy some coaches at national level (only three names as example: bonomi, vittori and locatelli) said on newspapers that he wasn’t really a jumper because he has so great phisical ability but not so good technic, and indeed he has capability to began an impressive 200&400m sprinter.

Funnily enough I’ve seen a couple vids of you jumping and see some comparison with Howe. I describe it as a ‘roll’ on the board you both accelerate fast onto the board but the take-off contact is quite long, with a long extension… running off the board… rather than the Pedroso/Saladino ‘ping’ :smiley:

If Howe could sharpen the take-off (which could be impossible considering his velocity at take-off) he could go 8.70 at least IMO:eek:

yeah easily, i think he’s fantastic. A bit crazy lol, but really good…

as for me, well, im a working progress, only been jumping 4 years so im still learning, but when i get it, i think ill go a long way…

so, which part of his technique isnt good?

are you saying his take off is too slow? to me, his leg is stiff, his take off angle is good and he follows through pretty well with his take off leg to his butt (not as well as phillips does but) .

hey Des, did you see his 7.60m jump indoors?

was it his full 23 stride? what was his series?

I didn’t remember well, his series was:
1°7.38 2°: 7.53 3°: 7.59 4°: 7.58 5°: 7.68 6°: 7.71
so his SB is 7.71m and not 7.6xm (7.63 was the score of Donato, already the italian TJ record holder with 17.60m). Howe planned to go to valencia, but after 2 different races when he jumped only 7.6x and 7.71 he decided to stop his indoor season. the problem is his “running-up” because he doesn’t one similar to another. but the criticism by different italian coaches are also for his bad (for their opinion) technic of landing.
only for example, when he was juniores he did 8.08m at national junior championship (good jump, but he had a “scissory landing”, his first foot was 35cm forward to his 8.08m).
of course he is an amazing athlete but we heard from when he was under 16 that he had an incredible talent (when he was 15 he already jumped 7.6x and ran under 21"00 FAT in 200m) but he should work with his mother with his technic of jumping, after 7 years the situation is the same (althought his incredible phisical condition put him between the best jumpers in the world).
I don’t think that he should switch to 200m or 400m because he will have much opponents; I hope he could fix those technical problems so he could be first man over 9.00m.

well, very interesting…amazing how someone can jumped 8.47m 6 month before struggleing to jump 7.60m…

but your totally right about his run up, i just watch all 6 jumps at worlds, and each run up was totally different, and if it wasnt for that last jump, his series wasnt good either…

as for his “sit” landing, i’ve tried to figure out if it is bad or good. Dwight phillips does the same thing…but, on his last jump at world howe hit the landing good, on the other jumps his feet weren’t together and came down to early…but im sure pedroso “side” landing and saladino “kick down” landing is better than Howes…

he is very inconsistant, but when he hits it we all saw what he can do…

still, nearly a metre difference from last outdoor peak, to this past indoors, i dont understand that at all…thats like me jumping 6.70m and i can do that from 8-10 stides…very strange…

I don’t understand the behaviour of stopping the indoor season.

You either want to perform well and unload accordingly or you have other priorities and keep jumping for whatever reason you began the indoor season in the first place.

It seems a lack of planning to me.

maybe it’s the same reason that forced FIDAL (italian T&F federation) to monitor much closer his preparation for summer season. the head coach of horizontal jump was much involved in his preparation for outdoor competitions

yeah, very strange…on an Olympic year, a normal double periodized season is best and done by most…even guys who dont compete indoors…

but he is supposed to be jumping 8.40m + at the Olympics and usually to do that you would need to jumped close to 8.20m indoors i would think…so, if he does jump a personal best outdoors, many things have to be questioned i believe…

Well, i believe that the cause of his poor landing position is that he is jumping too flat to complete succesfully the double hitch kick. His arms are far too high when they are supposed to be under his extended legs (like saladino does).

And then we are again in the topic of the fucking penultimate…

saladino does 1 and a half…very different to Howe…

Howe finished his hitch at around 6m…i think he has enough time to land like pedroso, he just isnt in the right position too…pedroso keeps his body upright, where as Howe throws himself forward…

I remember the frustration on Howe’s faces as he was not able to perform at the indoor nationals (I was watching it on the satellite).

This means he was not psychologically prepared for that kind of performance.