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John Lott clearly has more “experience” than other coaches and has become a “star” in the NFL based on his ability to formulate catch phrases and insult players. He is also formally educated in the field and other related areas. Yet, his programs suck and he’s generally regarded as a joke by players and those “in the know.”

You were trying to say coaches like smith and evans shouldn’t criticize the establishment before they’re on top of the game, and i’m saying guys like Lott are at the top level (for American football) and look at what they’re doing.

A lot of these coaches have lots of experience but have they learned from it??? Seems like the answer is NO

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I gonna post some of john lott stuff when he was at the univ of houston.

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uofh summer 95

staff:

john lott hc

lou hernandez assistant/hes now the hc at univ ill.

tommy evans GA

week 3:
mon:
phase 1:
bp 10,3x8,6,10 55,63,65,60
ip 12,10,8 50,53,55
db bp 3x10 lprog

phase 2:
seated mil 4x8
neck 2x12
3 way delt 3x12
pull over press 3x10
dench dips 3x12

tue:
phase 1
squat see bott
bear flat or sled 4x8
leg ext 2x12
leg curl 3x12
calf raise 3x25

phase 2:
hc 3x8,7 63,65
lat pull 3x10
row 3x10
bar curl 3x10
preach curl 3x10
hammer 2x12

squat:
big men: 20,15,12,10,8 135/205/225/275/295
little men: 20,15,12,10,8 135/185/205/225/250

thur:
phase 1:
ip 6543 63/65/67/70
bp 12,10,8 50,53,55
db ip 3x10

phase 2:
front press 4x8
high pulls 3x10
neck 2x12
st tri ext 3x10
tri pushdown 3x10
bench dips 2x12

fri:
phase 1
pc 4x,8,7 63/65
webbie pull 3x10
chain saw 3x10

phase 2:
snatch sq 3x10
bear 4x8
st leg dl 3x10
curl 3x10
db curl 3x10
rev curl 2x12

running:
tue:
3x350’s
70/75/80

thur:
2x6 crossfields
2rest
70/75/80

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I particularly like the plyo philosophy- Throw the workouts on the floor and tell a grown man to pick them up. Yell at a player till he ruptures both patullar tendons and then don’t have the decency to show up at the hospital-ever!

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his plyos in the manual:

plyo are movements designed to work the stretch/recoil characteristics of skeletal muscles. benefits include increasing tensile and muscular strength and stilmulating fast twitch muscle fibers.

rolling highknees
frog hop
hop an skip
lunge step
quick feet

Stands:
jog
hop both feet
hop right foot
hop left foot
hop two steps
sprint

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Thanks for telling me what I was trying to say.

Smith said Evans and himself had the best programs in the NCAA and that western academia needs to be reconstructed as well as the whole athletic system. I don’t think from their credentials they are founded in making such a statement.

I think you would need more experience than a couple years combined as assistant coaches at the collegiate level and one graduate degree and what 9 wins between the 2 of them this year to make such bold statements about the state of NCAA athletics and academia in general.

My opinion.

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Don’t put words in my mouth or spin my words to suit your agenda.

This is exactly what I said Truth be told regarding collegiate programs- other than my own, the program that Landon Evans runs at Illinois State is the only one, that I’m aware of, that makes excellent sense from top to bottom through and through.

Take a long close look at the ‘that I’m aware of’ and think about that for a while…

Now tell me why you would put in print that I said Landon and I are the best without indicating that I made it clear that I’m only speaking to what I’m aware of which clearly does not include the totality of training environments.

Lastly, enough of this internet keyboard bravado foolishness.

It appears as if you’re in PA.

I have an open door policy to all comers. since you’re motivated enough to take the time to pop off your speculations as to what I may or may not be qualified to notice about this industry why don’t you spend your time more wisely and take a trip to visit me at the University.

have a look at how I coach my athletes, for a day a week- as long as you wish, and we’ll talk training until we’re both blue in the face. After that, feel free to comment all you wish, as by that time you’ll actually be qualified to do so.

In the mean time, stop embarrassing yourself by assuming what I may or may not know just because I haven’t been destroying athletes or hiding behind some good ol boy network for as many years as it would appear you feel is necessary for someone to state what is painfully obvious about this industry and the lack of qualification of many of its inhabitants.

My doors are open to all.

Just give me a call or an email and we’ll arrange it.

What’s ridiculous is that so many of you don’t even use your real names or indicate what you do so for all intents and purposes it is your opinions that deserve the greatest scrutiny as anyone with moderate intelligence has the capacity to read a few books and spout off like an expert on the internet.

If you’re a critic of mine within driving distance I ask that you come pay me a visit so that you may at least arm yourself with factual information.

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On another note, is there any chance that either you, (or X) will be attending the Juniata College clinic this year?
It would be nice to put a face-with a voice- to the words!

Keep up the good work James!

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Any chance you or X will coach Juniata College?:smiley: We need some help.

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I was waiting for that comment from you.

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I am sorry I did not put the word aware, I understand that internet forum “print” is important to you.

Your qualifications do not include a phd which is what is my standard for critiquing academia. And I am not sure what graduate degrees you hold (not saying you dont).

And your coaching does not include collegiate head coaching either which were my points.

I am not commenting on your coaching ability, it may be fine, it is not what I am arguing.

I no longer live in PA sorry, havent for a couple years, I will change it in my profile so it doesnt upset you.

So if your S&C is top notch what was the reason for pitt and illinois states records then, just asking? I mean not top notch, best from top to bottom that you are aware of.

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Haha, Juniata football is the best team top to bottom that I am aware of.

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popequique I made the post about Landon leaving because I know he is well respected in the darkside circles and I believe that carries much weight within the forum. I am not sure of your experience level or involvment with d-1 football, but I assure you James’s knowledge level is far superior to all of the other d-1 coaches that I have heard speak or seen coach. What college programs do you have an intimate knowledge of? Who do you model your methods after? Who do you coach?

On the subject of the topic at hand I was hoping James would take his time to share his opinion on LE going to PTC I think this is a great addition there and that they will have even more sucess down the road. It is unfortunate neither of them writes or answer questions anymore. We can only hope James will continue to allocate his time in a manner that allows him to respond to questions and make comments on the Q&A.

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As from my above post I am not commenting on his ability to coach. Obviously I have seen some of his articles or whatever you would like to call them on other sites. And whether I agree with his training methods or not from my limited understanding of what he preaches is irrelevant to what I am discussing.

I was just stating my theoretical view of who should comment on such topics. If you or him or anyone else believes different that is fine. I respect your view point.

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Damn right it’s important. In my world, not being proficient in sign language, I’m left to take someone’s words as is- as are the rest of us I suspect.

So have the courtesy to properly quote someone especially on an open forum that is viewed by hundreds/thousands.

Regarding the rest of this argument, I sent you a private message.

No need to clutter this forum any further with a matter that is now between you and I.

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So, since I don’t hold a degree you find relevant, my telling you get a grip will, most likely, pass unnoticed.
Just like the opportunity to visit a top program to see how it operates, even if you have to travel a bit.

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is an excellent coach. A man doesn’t need to hold a advanced degree to be superior. So much of the crap I learned in university is just that CRAP. I have furthered my knowledge by visiting Charlie, Ian King, Poliquin, and others. Unless you expose yourself to people who think differently, you can never really grow. I have read alot of James’ work and I find it informative. I feel like I develop some pretty good athletes and his work has honed my processes. As far as the Pitt comments go, lrt me give my take. 1) Pitt is till getting back to what they once were. They are not getting all the best Pennsylvania has. 2) I think they beat some good teams including beating WVU and changing the championship game. If you look at it like that, than the really funny thing is James may have had a hand in sending Barwis(the reason this thread started) to Michigan. By the way, one of my kid;s signed with Arizona Cards and I thought Lott’s program was awful. Just my 2 cents.

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They have gotten a LOT of good guys from around the area and ended up doing little with them. There are teams that get less and get results on par or better than Pitt.

  1. I think they beat some good teams including beating WVU and changing the championship game. If you look at it like that, than the really funny thing is James may have had a hand in sending Barwis(the reason this thread started) to Michigan. By the way, one of my kid;s signed with Arizona Cards and I thought Lott’s program was awful. Just my 2 cents.

Not sure about that one… I can think of a lot of other reasons why WVU sucked in that game and S&C isn’t one of them. Pitt had some key guys get non-contact injuries this past season, which generally indicate something wrong with their prep (not necessarily from James, but were either unhealthy going into games, poor planning from a coach in some area, whether it be S&C, position, head, whatever).

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as I don’t know the specifics of the injuries so I cannot comment. I doubt Pitt can out recruit Penn State in home state. Just as MSU can’t get the U of M caliber guys in Michigan. I played college ball and can tell you compliance is a huge issue. It’s hard to get 100 guys to commit fully regardless who you are. I take a lot of responsibility for my kid’s health as I feel it is my most important task. Last year, a kid I trained was well on his way to a great season. 110 carries, 988 yds, and 19 Td’s through 6 games. Blew his ACL and both he and I were devestated. Up till then I have never had a kid miss a game or practice due to injury in 15 yrs of prep. I felt like I my have done something wrong as it was a non-contact injury. When I looked at it more thoroughly, it was just terrible luck. My thoughts on WVU for the last time is that I believe they won due to Pat White. When he was out, they were ordinary at best. When he was in, different team. So much for Barwis’ boy’s knocking them out in round 12. I liked WVU but I didn’t see any physical and conditioning superiority. His kid’s may not quit but that doesn’t mean they were tougher than other teams or stronger and more fit. There are a lot of good s&c coaches out there. I truly believe the best ones work for themselves after a while. How many pros even work for the teams coach. You can make a lot more money in private sector. I wouldn’t want my future attached to other peoples decision making.

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I would say that Pitt does have the advantage over Penn State in the fact that they are based in the area of the state that brings out the most recruits so they have usually had the advantage over Penn State with most of those athletes. But overall Penn State does tend to snag up a stud recruit or 2 from the area though.

But Pitt usually doesnt have a problem bringing in good recruiting classes, especially of late, they are usually around the top 25-35.