It would be if it appears I don’t possess speed endurance what if the opposite takes place?
In 2 - 3 weeks I’ll run 60 m to be more confident. If it will be say 6.7 then what?
Somehow I feel I can run 30 in 3.6 already I just dont rush. On a better surface, out of blocks with the shoes advised by the coach may I have show 6.7 and less…
The school’s coach who has timed me said I’m runnin easy, relaxed…
I don’t even know how I run. I have a NIKON coolpix 5600 video camera I’ll reckord myself and make some adjustments.
12.1-12.2…
You sound motivating
thats what my athletes think also.
I find this thread very interesting,
In a talent search in australia, I participated in (2006), a 30m sprint test wich was set up by the QAS using spikes on a mondo surface.
The 30m sprints were timed at 10m, 20m, 30m and were undertaken 3 times
my best results was my first attempt
10m 1.17
20m 2.89
30m 4.06
The timing protocol was to start 1 meter before the start line. Electronic timming was used and set up from the startline and would be triggered after passing the gate and then triggered when finninshing the 30m sprint
The best 20- 30 meter segment recorded was 1.10 but was the overall the slowest 30m time of 4.21
Well there is no reaction time recorded, timming was electric only with a 1 meter step in: flying start.
Is anyone aware of any projected times for the 100m using this protocol on 20 or 30 meters splits
would accuracy be better? what diference would you allow for the 1m in? or reaction time?
1.17 between 20-30m, you need to bring that down.
Mr. Sharmer said that 3.7 from 1st movement equals to around 10.9 - 11.1 if the one can hold the speed. Elite’s run 3.6’s from 1st movement but they have even a greater speed enduarance and run 9.7’s to 10?
The last 30 - 40 metres are crucial in overall result?
Tamfb what time around should I have handtimed from my 1st movement/bodytwitch in 60 meters to predict that I could have run say 10.10 in 100 meters FAT!!!???
quoting bummer
“The school’s coach who has timed me said I’m runnin easy, relaxed…
I don’t even know how I run. I have a NIKON coolpix 5600 video camera I’ll reckord myself and make some adjustments.”
Thats great that you have relaxed easy technique, its a real assesst. In my opinion having the technique is half the battle. You dont have to think about running when your sprinting it comes relaxed and automatic.
My advice would be to just focus on key cues during training if you do decide to approach a coach. Which your coach should be able to pick the best cues for you if many.
As for myself I have had to work on my technique for a few years to just be able to feel my knees comming through and stepping over and down to increase my front side mechanics at speed. This has been a focus in training for ever, making ground forward takes longer without using better technique.
quoting sharmer
1.17 between 20-30m, you need to bring that down
This may be reflected in my 20-30m time of 1.17 where my ability to step up into relaxed technique may have been hindered from forced acceleration and driving. In the 30 meter time of 4.21 the 20-30 segment was 1.10 which may have been a faster segment as a result of a more relaxed approach using better technique inclusive of greater frontside mechanics.
A video recording would have given me better feedback and could be well used in your training in consultation with the right coach.
Makes a big difference when comparing to w/o 1m step in time wise.
Ben Johnson ran 40 yard dash in 3.7 handtimed by 1st movement? So at 30 m mark he was in 3.2’s??? Bullshit? The timer must have clocked wrong? No Charlie?
I 've clocked 10.10 guys 3.4 from movement to 30. Based on this someone with 9.7 speed should be able to run 3.2s.
Bumer, I don’t want you to take this the wrong way, but it seems like you are doubting the speed of elite athletes because their times are considerably faster than yours. Until you run a properly timed (FAT, or add .25 to HT) 60m or 100m, your speed is unknown. Don’t assume you can run below 11.00 until you’ve done it.
I got it you can’t say for sure what your time is untill you run FAT but I didn’t advocate opposite either. Handtimed times vary as the one may start by command or by the 1st movement. You add 0.25 -0.5 to your handtimed times.
I’ll be more spesific. IF I understood correctly the elite’s run 30 m dash in 3.2 - 3.6 handtimed by the 1st movement? Say if you’ve run 3 attepts in 3.2s - 3.6’s 30 m dash handtimed by the 1st movement you can state that you’re fast.
I was just like your once until i started to run alot of meets, now i think HT is crap and shouldnt be used… so i never take hand times anymore… they are useless… sometime they are spot on, sometimes they are a second off… I can feel when I am running a certain time based on competition experience so I dont need stop watches
I agree…
In the testing and monitoring chapter of CFTS, in 1987 Angella Issajenko has her hand timed standing 30m listed at 3.26-3.29sec. I believe her 100m PB was slightly below 11 seconds.
Bumer, is there any reason why you can’t just go out and test either your 60m or 100m?
A 30m HT is too short a distance for making predictions about the 100m.
Chupacabras I’ll race 60 m against the best sprinters in the city as soon as I’ll be consistently showing 3.6’s in 30 m race that is what called an acceleration phase. There’ll be no need in FAT as it will be seen who is ahead and who is behind, that’s it. If the timer clocks right you can’t run one attempt in 3.7 the other 4,7 the second off otherwise he’s messing with you around or slow as a flying f… yes you can always say u’ve run your 30 m in 2.1 as the timer been deciding when to push it. So I say it again 3 attempts to average it and clocking it right.
You the man Bumer you should race against Tyson Gay.
All drugs and he would have been scared. But if being serious starting out of no blocks is bullshit. I'm taking 4 steps in 1st second, faster than Johnson Ben. Technique affects very much I've understood my faults having watched my run in slow moThis thread makes me laugh everytime I read it…its actually got to 4 pages…wow.:eek: