200m Endurance

Hi Guys,

Looking for some help in relation to 200m endurance:

  • The last 30m of 200m is lacking. Endurance issues, big time.

  • Curve mechanics are good, as is 100-170m. Form becomes rigid from 170-200, but retains technical integrity.

  • Speed is in place. 100m in 11.35.

  • 100m top speed and endurance are strengths.

  • 200m performance is ~23.1s.

My experience in this event is limited: what workouts have others used to specifically address this last 30m?

State final is the goal - 22.8 will get me there.

Any thoughts?

You need to run high quality reps of between 200m-300m.

You gotta ask yourself: is the speed in place? It may be easier to run 22.8 if you get your 100 down to 11.20 rather than focus on special endurance. It is not easy to run
(2.0 X 100m) for the 200.

JohnG109 has a valid point but there are a couple ways you can attack it.

That being said, I think I ran 22.79 when my 100m PR was like 11.37. That was before learning about Charlie’s methods. I basically just did a bunch of 200s at 85% in training. My lifting workouts were very good however and I got a great supercompensation window from that at the end of that year.

Or split runs eg 200m followed by 100m with 60s rest.

or

3x100m
2x150m
150m + 100m

Have you ever timed your split-100 m and compare it with your PB in 100 m? What’s the difference?

Split runs (e.g., 150 + 50 m) might be another option…

Mortac, your suggestion that speed may not be in place for a 22.8x performance is interesting. This had not occured to me - I had always assumed 11.3x was well clear of the speed needed for a 200m at that pace. Perhaps I was mistaken.

V. interesting!

Nik, I haven’t. I will though, next time I compete. Past experience suggests that my strength lies in my rolling speed rather than any acceleration ability.

JohnG: admittedly Special End. does not play a major part in my training. That said, I do compete very reguarly (most weekends), and these serve somewhat as training sessions.

Would the latter be run as a single session? ie. 3x100m, then 2x150, then 150m +100m? If so, what recovery between reps and sets?

Perhaps,

Special Endurance:

  • 200, 250, 300 with full recovery

or

  • 3 x 200m with full recovery

Split Runs:

  • 3 x (200 + 100) with 60 seconds recovery

  • 3 x (150 + 50) with 60 seconds recovery

Thoughts?

It could be a single session, but I probably didnt make myself clear, from my post 3 examples of split-run sessions could be

  1. 2-3 x (3x100m) 60s between reps 20 min between sets.

  2. 2-3 x (2x150) same rest periods.

  3. 2-3 x (150m + 100m) same recoveries.

  4. 2-3 x (200m + 100m) same recoveries.

[QUOTE=mortac8]You gotta ask yourself: is the speed in place? It may be easier to run 22.8 if you get your 100 down to 11.20 rather than focus on special endurance. It is not easy to run
(2.0 X 100m) for the 200.

JohnG109 has a valid point but there are a couple ways you can attack it.

That being said, I think I ran 22.79 when my 100m PR was like 11.37. That was before learning about Charlie’s methods. I basically just did a bunch of 200s at 85% in training.[QUOTE]

I agree, i’ve run a 22.52 FAT 200m off an 11.32 FAT 100m PR. From the training I was doing at the time, I found that there was a good balance between the Endurance and the out and out speed work.

One of the sessions I had to do to was 350, 300, 250, 200. This was more of a 400m session, but absolutely necessary to run a decent 200m.

We also did 2x150’s from the 200m start running the bend as hard as you would in a race, and learn to carry that speed through into the straight. Then, in the same session we’d do 2x150 from the 150m start to try and maintain form for the home straight. I ahve to say I found them pretty successful…

I like the sound of #3 very much. I think I will do this session some time this week.

As for special endurance: how does 200, 250, 300 with full recovery sound?

hey gluck with than session, you made a pretty good choice but you have to be mentally ready for the session because its not as easy as it looks. As for 200, 250, 300 i always go through it the other way around so i do 300, 250, 200. I think it depends on the type of athlete you are, but in my case i will never perform a desent 300m run after blasting a 250 and a 200, but i can pull out a good 200 and give it all i can after a 250 and a 300m run. Make your choice and goodluck. Been wondering, did you not run in the uni games?

komy, I didn’t run in the uni games. I am planning to next year though.