200m dash problem

LISTEN to the voice of experience (Walbin, as above). I know “Walbin”. He’s a coach now but in a former life was a very classy international 200m sprinter, a Commonwealth Games finalist in fact. He was a hell of bend runner, as you’d expect and superbly balanced, light on his feet. What he did was accomplished with beautiful rhythm and an effortless-looking technically clean action. :slight_smile:

Where do I send the cheque for your kind words. :o

I’ve been reading this thread because I have basically the same problem. Last year the 200 was my best event, seeing as my PB was 23.43 into a considerable wind while my 100 PB was 11.63 but this year my 100 has improved well (11.15) but my 200 is almost no better (23.24).

I know it can’t be a speed endurance problem, I’ve always been able to finish a 200 well and I use the “ato strategy”.

I’ve been really looking at breaking 23 but with my 100 speed (I’m a finisher not a starter in the 100 as well) I think I should be running like mid 22s. My coach says my stride length is too short but my turnover is good and I need to relax, do you think if those specifics were to improve it would make the .5+ difference in my 200 to what I probably should be running?

.5+ is a lot if you’ve been running the race much this season. How much tempo are you doing?

Unless you have form issues, I don’t know if you necessarily need to look at it as a stride length/stride frequency thing as increasing stride length actively could very well decrease frequency and cause over striding. MJ didn’t exactly take long strides, but he had a very high frequency to his running. Mid 22’s does sound right. I would try something different than the ato strategy and something more like what CF promotes / MJ used where you take it out @ about 98-99% and relax into the run.

Maybe you shouldn’t use the “Ato strategy”. I once heard Maurice say something like “so you want to come out and run the turn like 30%”… :rolleyes: I would listen to Walbin & Kitkat. I think alot of people use the Ato strategy and come through the turn off pace. You should run the turn FAST. Say it with me …“run the turn FAST”!

It shouldn’t be 100% maximal death effort but if you want to run like 22.5FAT you will need to come through the turn in around 11.50FAT.

Sometimes one of my guys (10.73/21.77) tanks the turn coming through in about 11.40 then it’s too late to do anything. Meaning there’s almost no way he’s running 21 from an 11.40 turn.

Alright next time I’m gonna try the turn hard but relaxed and see how it goes cause I think I’m leaving too much in the tank. This saturday I was closing on a guy on the straight who’s ran 22.0 this year in the last 70 or so meters of the race so I’m probably just taking the curve rediculously slow.

maybe in your training you should learn how to run relaxed first before trying to run as fast as you can tight as hell, also your speed endurance may need some fine tuning, etc try some 280s on your speed day, impliment this and you will find your top end speed will blow you away, also give some extencive tempo a crack, 200s in say 26 seconds.