Weights DO NOT stunt growth!

Quikashell asked in another thread for someone to explain the reasons why lifting does not stunt a child’s growth.
The following appeared on the Supertraining list several months ago:

Someone wrote elsewhere the following message about that age-old horror story
about weight training generally being dangerous for children and adolescents:

< If you look in the book “Designing Resistance Training Programmes” by Fleck
and Kraemer (published by Human Kinetics) there is a section about resistance training for children. It talks about the use of heavy weights and the stress placed on the epiphyseal plates during 1RM (which is definitely not advised for children or adolescents). >

Dr Mel Siff responds:
This is typical physical training mythology. It has never been shown scientifically or clinically that the periodic, non chronic imposition of large forces by weight training on the growing body causes damage to the epiphysial plates, though excessive impulsive loading over aprolonged period presumably may have this effect. It is extremely misleading to focus on the alleged risks of weight training on children when biomechanical research shows that simple daily activities such as running, jumping, striking or catching can impose far greater forces on the musculoskeletal system than very heavy weight training.

As a single example, compare the effects of running with squatting. Suppose that one child runs a few hundred metres a day in some or other sporting or recreational activities. This can easily involve several thousand foot strikes in which the reaction force imposed on the body can easily exceed 4 times bodyweight with every stride. Now let another child do a typical average weight training session with 3-5 sets of squats (say, with 10 reps, 8, 6 and 4 reps), with bodyweight or more for the last set. That bodyweight is divided between the two legs, so that the loading per leg is bodyweight or a little more, while the spine is subjected to the full load on the bar.
Normally, this exercise will be done no more than twice a week, while the
running child will do so every day.

It does not require much scientific knowledge or computational genius to see that the cumulative loading imposed by simple running activities on the lower
extremities and the spine is far greater than the cumulative load of two or three times a week weight training. Does this now mean that we are justified in recommending that children not be allowed to run, jump, throw or catch
because biomechanical research definitely shows that such activities can produce very large forces on many parts of the growing body?

Oh - I did not mention that the forces experienced by any youngster jumping
off a wall or roof (and many kids actually do this) can exceed eight times
bodyweight. There isn’t a human being on this planet who can manage a 1RM (1
rep maximum) which imposes forces that large on the body, yet many parents
and teachers militate against weights for children! Talk about selective
application of science and sports medicine!

Dr Mel C Siff
Denver, USA
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Supertraining/

thank you neospeed…
good read.
now i ask. where did this fallacy come from that weight training for children is bad? what is the other side of this.

I still think it is bad to lift heavy weights, am 16years old and i don’t do no weights. Children i think should nott do weights, i think it is stupid to start doing weights at 13years old(this was on another board). Some coach from my club a while back told me that weights, if you start and a young age can do damage! to tendons and stuff!
:afro:

mr.shumon Cool,

did u read neospeeds post?
anyway,
since you feel so strongly about the issue…can you give us some rearch based (journal articles) to back it up?

The National Strength Coaches Association (NSCA) has published a position paper, Prepubescent Strength Training, that describes the risks and benefits and offers some guidelines for strength training.

It is available for $2.00 from NSCA, Box 8140, Lincoln ME 68501.

References:

NSCA. (1985). NSCA Position Paper on Prepubescent Strength training . NSCA JOURNAL. Vol 7 number 4

Faigenbaum, Avery D. (1993). Prepubescent strength training: a guide for teachers and coaches. NSCA Journal. 15(5). 20-29

I don’t want to read no books. But at the moment i feel there is no need to do weights.

I think that it is just common sense that heavy weights can damge you at a young age.

So its pretty much ignorance and since youve never tried it you feel it is not needed. all i have to say is that when you do start to lift and you see major improvements in your times you will look back and say damn, i wish i woulda took everyones advice and did some research on my own and lifted because i woulda have been so much better then i actually was.

and…what you said…
"I think that it is just common sense that heavy weights can damge you at a young age. "

well then its common sense that is wrong also known as a fallacy…
scientific research points to this fallacy… and as i said unless you can find research to back it up you have no point.

MR SHUMON,
Quick is trying to clear up a common misconception. It may be good for you to do your own personal research and share it with everyone here. You may have resources that some of us don’t. Spread love. The cream rises to the top my friend and if your competition is lifting weights and beating you. Then you might want to join the cream.

"Use what is useful,
discard what is useless.

Bruce Lee

Hey! No need to spoil what is the comic relief of this forum.

david,
the thing is i dont think he is trying to be funny! so were trying to give him advice to acutally help him.:baddevil::

Prepubescent weightlifting may not be as dangerous as people think but I think a more pertinent question is WHY? Why would you have children weightlifting anyway? To get a head start on the competition? I heard the story that Bill Kazmaier deadlifted 500lbs the first time he tried the lift as a teenager in high school. Would he have been any stronger in the long run if he had started weightlifting as a child? Would Ben Johnson have been any faster if he had started lifting as a child? I don’t know. I guess it depends on the child. I spent most of my childhood playing soccer or just running around the playground.

not to cut off your question earle…
BUT… mr shumon cool is not a child… he is 16!!! there is nooooooo reason he shouldn’t be lifting weights. We shouldnt even be having this discussion… maybee if he was 12-14 years old maybee it’d be a different story. does anyone agree?

I agree. Infact no weights training means no resistance training such as med ball or body weight exercises. I find it hard to believe that Mr Cool has done no body weight exercises (push ups, sit ups, chin ups, step ups, lunges etc) at 16 years of age. Some of these exercises would be provide heavier loading than some light gym weights.

May as well cut out running as that can put in excess of 4 times your body weight on one leg. :baddevil::

I have a feeling that Shuman Cool doesnt want to do heavy weights & we are not recommending he do that. He may lift in the near future. Waiting another year or 2 wont hurt.

Mr Shuman Cool, at what age are you looking to start gym weights? I didnt start gym till 20 due to ignorance. It took an injury to get me started.

llenny:afro:

I was talking about younger kids, but I agree, at 16 some strength training would be beneficial.

On a more serious note, I have been doing weights (HEAVY weights) since a very young age. I started doing resistance training when I was a ‘freshman’ with only a set of dumbells (which only went up to about 17.5 kg which I used for 20 rep one leg squats). By the next year I was lifting with challenging resistance in the gym (hypertrophy range 8-12RM), and the year after that when I was 15, I was using around 5RM for the compound lifts (squats, deads, etc).

With that said, I have injured myself twice lifting weights but consider that:

a) I got carried away and was trying to stiff-leg deadlift around 150 kg for a high rep set.

b) In those circumstances anybody of any age could’ve got injured.

No other damage has been done to my body, and certainly not to the sex appeal to the beautiful young school girls!

Originally posted by llenny
I agree. Infact no weights training means no resistance training such as med ball or body weight exercises. I find it hard to believe that Mr Cool has done no body weight exercises (push ups, sit ups, chin ups, step ups, lunges etc) at 16 years of age. Some of these exercises would be provide heavier loading than some light gym weights.

May as well cut out running as that can put in excess of 4 times your body weight on one leg. :baddevil::

I have a feeling that Shuman Cool doesnt want to do heavy weights & we are not recommending he do that. He may lift in the near future. Waiting another year or 2 wont hurt.

Mr Shuman Cool, at what age are you looking to start gym weights? I didnt start gym till 20 due to ignorance. It took an injury to get me started.

llenny:afro:

Shuman = shumon

Yes i am thinking of doing weights or this winter! if any of you have seen my (training programme i do think it is not what it should be).

BIG YO

i do sit ups, push ups, and all the rest but not weights. I have currently stopped doing that tho (i am not feeling good). I have got three weeks to reach the next level. At the moment i feel the unfitest i have ever been, and people say when am training like my coach
“oh you have’nt lost any fitness”
Well i have i use to be a MACHINE!

I am going to use this 3 or 4weeks very wise. Because the plan is to go to the english schools in the 200m or 400m. I am not ignorrant, just relaxed.
In this 3 to 4 weeks i will do alot more circiut training plus more track work. Because i feel like i have lost all my stamina from the winter!
Because i only train twice aweek. And i was ill for a while and have found it hard to regain my fitness.
I could’nt even be assed going to (the championships). With my back injury it has cleared upo now tho.

:shoot:

Originally posted by QUIKAZHELL
So its pretty much ignorance and since youve never tried it you feel it is not needed. all i have to say is that when you do start to lift and you see major improvements in your times you will look back and say damn, i wish i woulda took everyones advice and did some research on my own and lifted because i woulda have been so much better then i actually was.

and…what you said…
"I think that it is just common sense that heavy weights can damge you at a young age. "

well then its common sense that is wrong also known as a fallacy…
scientific research points to this fallacy… and as i said unless you can find research to back it up you have no point.

Yes when i start doing weights i will not look back and think this because. I know what am doing, there an’t no rush! (and there an’t no worry). My time may improve and so they should be.
But at the monment as i said i don’t feel there is no need to do them.

Originally posted by David
Hey! No need to spoil what is the comic relief of this forum.

Is this some kind of comedy show or somethin.

Originally posted by MR SHUMON COOL

Is this some kind of comedy show or somethin.

Excellent question!