Coach Hart has Wariner in fine shape for this early in the season.With Hart & MJ in his corner,anyone who doubt Wariner is a fool.I can see him being very competetive with Gatlin,Capel & Crawford in the near future.He won’t dominate but can be competetive over the deuce.I see him going sub 20 and eventually breaking MJ’s 400 world record.MJ’s 200 Record might never be broken!!
Wow, you expect a very eventful summer
As far as I know Wariner has no plans to competitively run the 200 but if he does it’s very possible he could run a high 19.9 or a 20.0x, it’s unbelievbale how fast he is for his size.
As for the 400, I don’t think he’ll break MJ’s record, but a mid 43 is something I believe he is capable of.
Ummm world records are a long way off but sub20 may be on the cards…
Wariner has already ran 20.59 and 20.37 (pr) this year.
why cannot he break MJ’s WR?
he is young and he ran 43"9 in imperfect conditions (in helsinky)
i think that with a better reserve speed he can break the barrier of 43"
43.93 Jeremy Wariner USA 31 01 1984 1 Helsinki 12 08 2005
43.18 Michael Johnson USA 13 09 1967 1 Sevilla 26 08 1999
a very big differance to make up, .75seconds over 400m. about almost 2 tenths of a second over each 100m segment, if you break it down linerally. you can’t really break it down like that but it gives you a general idea that he still has a bit of a way to go. I don’t think he’ll break MJ’s record let alone go sub 43, but thats just me, others have their opinions and we’ll have to wait it out and see. either way it’s great for the sport.
He is a long way off but that is where his increased speed in the deuce is going to help him so much.If he can increase his first 200 meters by .50 to .75,now we have a chance assuming he can maintain that speed over the 400 meters.I don’t think it will be easy but it is attainable if he can get to be a consistant 20.00 sprinter in the 200 meters.His strength has always been his finish,now he will have to get the full race similar to the master M.J. Michael Johnson is probably the greatest sprinter that has ever lived i.m.o.
He ran a 43.2 split on the relay squad at the Texas Relays yesterday!That is scorching.It’s only early April but he is in great shape.It’s going to be a interesting summer.I heard his next races will be at the Drake Relays will he will be doubling in the 200 & 400 meters.Good luck to him.
of course, it is a big difference but we have to consider that a WR can be the performance of a day not a standard!
wariner is a young man that can improve his 200 m and so his speed reserve
he can improve his speed endurance for a better finish race than in helsinkl
again: he can find better weather & track conditions and so he can go faster!
One question: before zurich, what was Butch Reynolds’ PB?
i think it was a huge leap for him and i think jeremy can do the same one
PS: we are talking about a 22 years old young man who won already gold medal in WC and OC!
I agree, Jeremy might still improve, he’s still young and he has a great coach. Don’t forget, Michael Johson was probably a lot faster than his 43.18 indicates. With a 19.32 200m, he probably could have run 42.xx? Where’s a formula when you need one?
Jeremy ran in a 4X4 last weekend at the Texas Relays, and people at the meet hand timed his split in about 43.2. If you add 1.0, it is still awfully fast for this time of the year…and he also has the world lead in the 200.
It’s still a lot of time to take off, but with no WC/OG this year, I have to wonder if Wariner and Clyde Hart are planning to take down the 400 WR at, say, Zurich. They would seem to be on schedule for that.
Whether Wariner breaks the WR left behind by MJ, he and everyone else are lucky MJ was hurt in Atlanta, otherwise he would have demolished the 400m WR in Zurich, approx 10 days after Atlanta, the way he did with the 200m there!!
Hand timmed 400m formula for a well conditionned athlete:
Take the 200m hand time x 2 + 3.5 sec = 19.1h + 19.1h +3.5 = 41.7 + .24 for E = 41.94e!!!
Or, based - less mathematically - on the 400m models, add 1sec to his 200PB for the opening 200m split and add 2sec to that time to estimate the come-home 200m split:
19.3 + 1.0 = 20.3 + 2.0 = 22.3 + 20.3 = 42.6
I’d be inclined to defer to you on this! Either way, yours is prob worst case and mine best case.
The statistic difference between 400m from blocks and relay leg is 0.7 (i found this comparing men and women participants at both individual 400m and relay leg at Olympic Games since 1972). 43.2 supposes a 44.1 from blocks.
BUT i have some doubts whether Wariner did 43.2. It might be 43.3. He ran the 2nd leg and few people actually know which mark is the actual end of the first leg. Also, it’s very difficult to see it on tapes. Thus i can’t give an estimation. However, i can find the 2nd, 3nd and 4th 100m sections of his lap:
??.? + 10.4 + 11.0 + 11.9 (last 300m 33.3).
Note that the 11.0, slow compare Wariner’s standard, can be explained by the fact that he was running close to the lane 2 in the bend to pass Derrick Brew.
The comparison with his fastest 400m from blocks is interesting :
10.7 + 10.3 + 10.8 + 12.1, (33.2) = 43.93 Helsinki’05
11.2 + 10.3 + 10.7 + 11.8, (32.8) = 44.00 Athina’04
11.4 + 10.3 + 10.7 + 11.8, (32.8) = 44.20 Carson’05
11.1 + 10.4 + 10.8 + 12.1, (33.3) = 44.37 Sacramento’04
If we add 10.7 or 11.4 for the first 100m and add the last 300m in 33.3, we have a time of 44.0 to 44.7 from blocks. My feeling is Warnier is very close to run 44.0.
Concerning Butch Reynolds, he set a PB about 1 month before his Zürich WR in 43.93 during the Indy Trials. His 2nd best ever is 43.91 in 1996. The 43.39 was a kind of perfect race, were he did a good compromise between his Indy and Seoul tactics, while beeing in the shape of his life. Some tips on how he was training then?
What could he have done if he put everything together - in his Atlanta 200/400 shape - at an Olympics (high motivation) at high altitude - in other wotds what could have run at a Mexico Olympics scenario!? Sub 42?
Wainer is looking better with every race.He finished 2nd today in Cali to W.Spearmon.Jeremy ran a 20.19 for a new p.b. Keep up the great sprinting JW!!
I shudder to think!
Oddly enough, I believe Spearmon may have a huge upside for the 400. However, it may require a different program or at least some time and patience. At Home Depot, I thought his race highlighted superior top speed with a strong reserve characteristic.
result of better top speed & sufficient speed endurance?