1st: Tommie Smith (USA) 19.8
2nd: Peter Norman (AUS) 20.0
3rd: John Carlos (USA) 20.0
http://los.idx.com.au/1968_200m.zip
We all know what happened after this race with Smith and Carlos raising their fists…
Dont know what Carlos (WR holder) is doing down the straight, could he look around anymore?
As for Tommie, how fast could he have run without slowing and raising arms 10m (at least) from the finish? What about Tommie’s gear change with about 60m to go?!
Tommie’s last 100m was run in 9.31s (100m splits; 10.52s/9.31s)
He did tear his addcutor, and he said post-race that due to this he had to run the bend a bit slower than usual.
But his explosion in the home straight is great.
Much like Bob Hayes in Tokyo '64 Men’s 4x100m relay final.
I think that if Tommie hadn’t of slowed dwon in the final 10-15 of this race he would of run sub-19.75s (19.67-19.73s. With a finishing 100m of 9.15-9.21s!!!)
However a 19.6x in the '60s is insane.
If this had happened does anyone still think MJ would of run 19.32s???
Or would he have felt a record which had stood for 20 years+ would be unbeatable?
If Tommie would’ve run 19.6x in the '60s, does anyone think that MJ’s career would’ve been different???..
Though extremely impressive, remember those times should be suffixed with a very big letter A.
Peter Norman still holds the Australian 200m record with this run (20.06A). He never came close to this time before or after.
spaceman: a lot of ifs and buts there… mennea wouldnt have held the world record if that was the case. woulkd they have adjusted for altitude over the years?
I cant imagine that record being there until 1996 when mj ran 19.68 at us trials.
i think mj still would have run his 19.3 though, nothing different about that.
dcw: can u see anyone getting near 20.06 in the near future in australia? maybe a certain ex aussie champ improving half a second or so?!
All-time men’s best 200m (Sub20)
Interesting reading.
1 19.32 +0.4 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Atlanta 01.08.1996
2 19.66 +1.7 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Atlanta 23.06.1996
3 19.68 +0.4 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 2 Atlanta 01.08.1996
4 19.71A +1.8 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Pietersburg 18.03.2000
5 19.72A +1.8 Pietro Mennea ITA 28.06.52 1 Ciudad de México 12.09.1979
6 19.73 -0.2 Michael Marsh USA 04.08.67 1s1 Barcelona 05.08.1992
7 19.75 +1.49 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 1 Indianapolis 19.06.1983
7 19.75 +1.7 Joe DeLoach USA 05.06.67 1 Seoul 28.09.1988
9 19.77 +0.6 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Stockholm 08.07.1996
9 19.77 +0.7 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 1rA Stuttgart 13.07.1997
11 19.79 +1.7 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 2 Seoul 28.09.1988
11 19.79 +1.0 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 New Orleans 28.06.1992
11 19.79 +0.5 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Göteborg 11.08.1995
14 19.80 -0.9 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 1 Los Angeles 08.08.1984
14 19.80 +0.4 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 3 Atlanta 01.08.1996
16 19.81 +0.3 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Fukuoka 13.09.1997
17 19.82A +1.94 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 1 Sestriere 11.08.1988
17 19.82 +1.1 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Oslo 05.07.1996
17 19.82 +1.6 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 1rA Stockholm 07.07.1997
20 19.83A +0.9 Tommie Smith USA 12.06.44 1 Ciudad de México 16.10.1968
20 19.83 +1.7 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Atlanta 18.05.1996
22 19.84 +0.2 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 1q3 Los Angeles 19.06.1984
22 19.84 +1.7 Francis Obikwelu NGR 22.11.78 1s2 Sevilla 25.08.1999
24 19.85 +0.4 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Edinburgh 06.07.1990
24 19.85 +0.3 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Stuttgart 20.08.1993
24 19.85 -0.9 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 1 Lausanne 03.07.1996
24 19.85 +1.1 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 2 Oslo 05.07.1996
24 19.85 -0.3 John Capel USA 27.10.78 1 Sacramento 23.07.2000
24 19.85A ±0.0 Shawn Crawford USA 14.01.78 1 Pretoria 12.04.2002
24 19.85 -0.5 Konstadínos Kedéris GRE 11.07.73 1 München 09.08.2002
31 19.86A +1.0 Donald Quarrie JAM 25.02.51 1 Cali 03.08.1971
31 19.86 -0.2 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 1 Los Angeles 21.06.1984
31 19.86 +1.0 Michael Marsh USA 04.08.67 2 New Orleans 28.06.1992
31 19.86 +1.6 Maurice Greene USA 23.07.74 2rA Stockholm 07.07.1997
31 19.86 +0.4 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 1 Athína 16.06.1999
36 19.87 +0.8 Lorenzo Daniel USA 23.03.66 1 Eugene 03.06.1988
36 19.87A +1.8 John Regis GBR 13.10.66 1 Sestriere 31.07.1994
36 19.87 +1.2 Jeff Williams USA 31.12.65 1 Fresno 13.04.1996
36 19.87 -1.2 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Osaka 08.05.1999
36 19.87 +1.4 John Capel USA 27.10.78 1 Boise 05.06.1999
41 19.88A +1.5 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Sestriere 08.08.1990
41 19.88 -0.9 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Barcelona 20.09.1991
41 19.88 +1.7 Michael Marsh USA 04.08.67 2 Atlanta 18.05.1996
41 19.88 -0.4 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 1r2 Athína 17.06.1998
41 19.88 -0.3 Floyd Heard USA 24.03.66 2 Sacramento 23.07.2000
41 19.88 +0.1 Joshua J. Johnson USA 10.05.76 1 Bruxelles 24.08.2001
47 19.89 +1.0 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Bruxelles 13.09.1991
47 19.89 +0.7 Maurice Greene USA 23.07.74 2rA Stuttgart 13.07.1997
47 19.89 -0.8 Claudinei Quirino da Silva BRA 19.11.70 1 München 11.09.1999
47 19.89 +0.3 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1h4 Sacramento 22.07.2000
51 19.90 +0.3 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Norwalk 16.06.1990
51 19.90 +0.4 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Osaka 10.05.1997
51 19.90 +1.2 Maurice Greene USA 23.07.74 1 Sevilla 27.08.1999
51 19.90 -0.8 Maurice Greene USA 23.07.74 2 München 11.09.1999
55 19.91 +1.9 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Salamanca 13.07.1992
55 19.91 ±0.0 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1rA Sevilla 09.06.2000
57 19.92A +1.9 John Carlos USA 05.06.45 1 Echo Summit 12.09.1968
57 19.92 +1.3 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 1 Madrid 04.06.1987
57 19.92 -0.2 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Bruxelles 23.08.1996
57 19.92 +1.6 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Melbourne 25.02.1999
57 19.92 +0.2 Maurice Greene USA 23.07.74 1 Monaco 04.08.1999
62 19.93 -1.45 Lorenzo Daniel USA 23.03.66 1 Auburn 15.05.1988
62 19.93 -0.3 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Monaco 09.09.1995
62 19.93A ±0.0 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Johannesburg 24.09.1995
62 19.93 +0.7 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 3rA Stuttgart 13.07.1997
62 19.93 +0.5 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Monaco 16.08.1997
62 19.93 +0.8 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Roma 07.07.1999
62 19.93 +0.2 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 2 Monaco 04.08.1999
62 19.93 +0.4 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Bruxelles 03.09.1999
70 19.94 +1.4 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Sheffield 15.09.1991
70 19.94 +1.1 Michael Marsh USA 04.08.67 1r2 Austin 09.05.1992
70 19.94 +0.3 John Regis GBR 13.10.66 2 Stuttgart 20.08.1993
70 19.94 ±0.0 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Monaco 02.08.1994
70 19.94 +0.6 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 2 Stockholm 08.07.1996
75 19.95 +1.9 Floyd Heard USA 24.03.66 1 Lubbock 17.05.1987
75 19.95 -1.0 Michael Marsh USA 04.08.67 1r2 Zürich 19.08.1992
75 19.95 -0.2 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Paris 28.06.1996
78 19.96A +0.2 Pietro Mennea ITA 28.06.52 1h9 Ciudad de México 10.09.1979
78 19.96 ±0.0 Pietro Mennea ITA 28.06.52 1r2 Barletta 17.08.1980
78 19.96 -0.9 Kirk Baptiste USA 20.06.63 2 Los Angeles 08.08.1984
78 19.96 +1.0 Joe DeLoach USA 05.06.67 1 Indianapolis 20.07.1988
78 19.96 +0.36 Robson Caetano da Silva BRA 04.09.64 1 Bruxelles 25.08.1989
78 19.96 +0.8 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Rieti 05.09.1993
78 19.96 +0.7 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Roma 05.06.1996
78 19.96 +2.0 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1rA Duisburg 12.06.1996
78 19.96 -0.3 Coby Miller USA 19.10.76 3 Sacramento 23.07.2000
87 19.97 -1.0 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 2r2 Zürich 19.08.1992
87 19.97A +1.8 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 2 Sestriere 31.07.1994
87 19.97 +1.5 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Victoria 26.08.1994
87 19.97 +0.5 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Berlin 30.08.1996
87 19.97A +1.3 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Johannesburg 13.09.1998
87 19.97 +0.3 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 1 Lausanne 05.07.2000
87 19.97 -0.8 Obadele Thompson BAR 30.03.76 1 Yokohama 09.09.2000
94 19.98 +0.2 Joe DeLoach USA 05.06.67 1 Austin 15.05.1988
94 19.98 -0.4 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Rieti 06.09.1991
94 19.98 +0.3 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Houston 22.05.1992
94 19.98 +0.1 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1s2 Atlanta 01.08.1996
94 19.98 +1.7 Marcin Urbas POL 17.09.76 2s2 Sevilla 25.08.1999
99 19.99 +0.6 Calvin Smith USA 08.01.61 1 Zürich 24.08.1983
99 19.99 +1.2 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 1 Houston 17.06.1988
99 19.99 +1.1 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 1 Lausanne 07.07.1993
99 19.99 +0.3 Carl Lewis USA 01.07.61 3 Stuttgart 20.08.1993
99 19.99 -0.2 Ato Boldon TRI 30.12.73 2 Bruxelles 23.08.1996
99 19.99 -0.9 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Dakar 22.08.1998
99 19.99 ±0.0 John Capel USA 27.10.78 1 Athens 16.05.1999
99 19.99 +0.6 Frank Fredericks NAM 02.10.67 1 Roma 12.07.200220.06 is a fast time.
about 12-13% of them have been at altitude, including mj’s season opener in 2000, thats quite a fair amount to be honest
20.06 is very fast, capo and marsh couldnt get down there, even when capo led them off the bend at the world champs…