Training for Tryouts

As is typical from a weights and jumps heavy program. There you have it then, maxV and SE

Get bigger, stronger, while getting fitter and I promise you can milk that cow for the next 2 years at least. I have seen it many times!!!

If you were driving a car I would say you are going from 3rd gear to 5th gear. You are not reaching maxV.

haha, at least i know what i need to work on. unfortunately maxV is hard to improve and SE training isn’t supposed to be worked on specifically this early in the season (if I’m not mistaken) so I will have to hope mechanics work and conditioning will do its charm until I’m in season and get more specific

that’s the goal! though I was repping more than 2x my bw to parallel last fall and was probably a high 11 runner at that point so i’m not sure i need much more strength for how slow i am. I think my main problems are mental and mechanical but I’m sure I can still see huge gains with very general training

if I had more maxV I’d be ecstatic, what do you recommend for finding this 4th gear? my in-race problem seems to be excessive backside mechanics, but in training session once I get upright my stride rate just plummets, even if I’m not trying to extend my stride or anything :confused:

mon july 18

-dynamic warm up w/ backflip and 1 human flag each added
-static stretching
-10x20m grass hills 3pt w/ spikes r: 2’
-50 contacts plyos (~5 broad, 9 standing triple, 7 vertical, 5 single leg leaps, 5 depth jumps, 5 hurdle hops w/ post-accel, 15 llrr hops)

-jump rope
-monday lifting
-static stretching

notes:
-felt good to be working hard again. warm up was much more extensive than I was used to and the lifting used higher reps for legs than I’ve been doing lately. lifting four times a week again will take a little getting used to
-did reps of sprinting by feel, began to feel a bit burnt at 10 so I stopped. used the “z” cue from the camp by thinking about bringing my toe to my knee. felt great on several reps. made sure to hit triple ext. and to exhale at initial push off then hold breath

Keep this in mind, you must do what you must do.

There are no “absolutes” when it comes to when you can work on certain sprint abilities with the proviso that the prerequisite abilities are in place.

Obviously maxV must precede speed endurance when maxV isn’t high enough yet. So you are free to address the maxV work as early as you want specifically because you aren’t currently fast enough for it to be “risky”.

We’ve already established that your 30m ability is more than sufficient to go sub 11 when maxV and speed endurance are in place; which they are not. Thus, it is in your interest to address maxV in the short term and not wait until some arbitrary point in the season.

If you’re ready you’re ready.

Begin your sessions with some block starts and short accels to get the volume you need to compliment the volume you won’t get with maxV and don’t be afraid to insert some speed endurance in low volumes one session a week.

The lower your level of speed the sooner you can address abilities that a very fast runner will have to wait for due to their output levels.

More speed is almost always the key; the difference lies in what each individual must do in order to develop it.

What kind of running were you doing??? I know guys who have gotten bigger and stronger while doing nothing but hills-sleds-mod to high ext tempo and bb weights. Don’t make this harder then it is!!!

Mon: 2x4x30 sleds+lb wts
Tue: ext tempo 400’s+ub wts
Wed: 3x3x50 hills
Thur: active recovery
Fri: 2x4x30 sleds+lb wts
Sat:ext tempo 200’s+ub wts

You could do the above program for months and get great development for the lower level sprinter

i haven’t thought about it like this before. that makes a lot of sense. my long hils day hits se and shorter hills day is low enough volume i could definitely fit in some top speed work. on my testing day each week i wil be practicing 30m fly so thatll cover top speed (i’ll vary from a 15m to a 30m lead-in)

as would make sense for the type of rnner i am, mostly shorter stuff, my past journals are around on the site somewhere… haha. though i did fit in flys and such at some point, just i think the overkill i did on the weights inhibited that development

my set up for his month does look somewhat similar to your example setup, though i like james’s idea on adding some maxV devel

You need to make clear that your 30m time is handtime not FAT/touchpad which equals your 100m time.

it’s not handtime, i took hd video with a flipvideo camera and used a frame by frame timer starting from my first movement to when my chest crosses the 30m mark. it’s accurate to about the .03

Please post that vid it would help…

Forget about backside mechanics I suggest they are the result of frontside mechanics, the faster the leg moves the longer it will take to recock for next stride. If you watch the feet of some top 100m runners then 1000m runners and compare the cycle you should see what I am getting at. I will suggest your are popping up too early.

Are these “try outs” to make your college Track Team? Or football team?
I have never heard of Try Outs for college Track teams here in Aust. - NO such system bursting with people here! At least not where i have seen.

ill be doing testing on thursday and will be taking video, i’ll try to get something up then. i believe my best was a 4.08 and my worst was almost 4.3, which that variation isnt too strange considering my 100 ranged from 11.3-12.1 and my 200 from 22.8 to in the 24’s

hopefully i wont be too sore from the new program to run a good time, haha

i guess the problem with my backside stuff is more when i end up with anterior hip tilt so my heels get way up behind me like around my butt

i was actually thinking the contrary with the popping up, i tend to exit the blocks at a decent angle (see the pro pic) but then dont get much more upright through at least 40. i was thinking maybe upright earlier would prevent overstriding or at least get my hips in a better position

the “tryouts” are for track, but that’s really just what the coach calls them. essentially, for fall training he allows potential walk-ons to train with the team and cuts them as he sees necessary until the proper roster size is reached. approx. 10-20 people of the fall roster of about 90 will need to be cut

tues july 19

-functional warm up
-1 mi run

-jump rope
-circuits A
-weights tues
-static stretching

notes:
-quads are pretty sore, couldn’t do full range one legged squat. minor doms in lower glutes and triceps, lower back a bit sore too
-work tends to have a higher volume of LI stuff and a lower volume of HI stuff than i’ve been used to so I’m feeling more muscle and cardio exhaustion than that burnt out feeling I’ve come to know, haha. I’m sore but don’t feel overtrained
-day off tomorrow, hopefully i can shake off the soreness so i can do my testing thursday somewhat fresh (i plan to do 3x30m 3 pt, 3x30m fly 15m build up, 10xstanding vertical, 1x500m standing). i will do taping and try to get times/measurements for at least half)