I understand and agree (although we train up to 4 athletes at a time)! It wasn’t my money that was used to buy the program and equipment. 
I just work here.
But when the slats get like that, we replace them. The price will vary for each location, but compared to personal training, it is a bargain. I like the machines, but this is just my opinion.
I understand the Hockey treadmill very well! I used to walk by it everyday when I lifted at the UofA gym! I believe they even have a harness mounted on the roof in case you fall. The name Frappier is on the wall too! CF has posted about why treadmills cannot replace speed work or other track stuff. Do a search and I think it might open your eyes a little bit as to why people are opposed to Frappier.
I am very familiar with why people here are opposed to treadmills. My first posts included many people, very adamently, telling me what they felt was wrong with training on a treadmill.
As a side note, knowing how most polymers show fatigue and handle shearing, i wouldn’t want to be on a treadmill sticking blades in it.
I know that this has little to due with the Crappier/Frappier system…but
In a recent Q&A at Elite, Martin Rooney talks about sprint training his hockey athletes. I agree with his sentiment.
It seems to me that treadmill skating is analogous to punching with dumbells to improve punching speed. It seems like a good idea until you actually try it. Sprinting is cheap (50K could have payed for two to three years of my undergraduate education as an out-of-stater!) and its benefits to hockey are well known.
I’m just curious but has the guy ever worked with hockey players or skaters other than Brian Boitano? Not trying to sound like an ass but I checked his bio and found nothing.
http://www.parisischool.com/instructors.html
http://www.parisischool.com/clients.html
I have been asking all my players if they’d tried the treadmills before and one of them with his agent was responsible for Cornell getting one because of the improvements he had in his skating. He is a goalie btw. Everone there loves the thing too.
I don’t know, I think I’d personally stick with sprints myself. If the guys had a chance to go on there and lengthen their stride I’d say go for it but for overall speed, Sprints and Smith machine squats !!! Lol just kidding.
Can’t get his webpage to load up, to much java shtuff for my crap connection. I am just going on what was said in the Q&A. Generally i give them the benefit of the doubt.
The synthetic surfaces really bust down your skate’s edges. Guys I know will have an alternate set of stell they’ll put in thier skates if they use the treadmills because the edges get so far busted up. The reason they do that is simple, because it actually gets cut, not melted (ice) it will wear down your blades.
From the way it sounds, the treadmill isn’t worth the time, when you can buy a Tuuk rocker chasis to mount to skate roller in a similar way from smarthockey. Even then, you can take it on an extra wide and long treadmill to skate.
As far as not having open ice to practice skills on, it just takes a little determination. Getting up at 5 am takes disipline to go to the local rink to get open ice.
Or in using dumbells for weighted arm swings! LOL! I’m still shocked to see people use this method today! In fact; I saw on another thread here on the forum and I believe it is in that book by Dintiman and Ward, whats it called? Training for speed? LMFAO!
I can’t believe people are arguing the merits of the skating treadmill on this forum. Anyone uneducated enough to use that thing deserves the lousy results.
There has been one in Vancouver here for about a decade. Funny thing is that it is located next to a bunch of ice rinks. What am I missing here - “There’s ice just over there…!” Come on people.
How come speed skaters (obviously faster than hockey players) don’t use them?
There’s 2 or 3 more now around Vancouver and they’re also located in the same building as ice rinks. They’re quite a big thing around here. Over ther summer they’re constantly in use. IS this similar to other places in canada or US where hockey is popular
Speed skaters do use the program.
I’m not sure if you know it or not, but Martin Rooney has trained his athletes using the Frappier system. If you check out his book, “Training for Warriors,” the equipment is seen often and he even has a picture of Ricardo Almeida running on the treadmill.
There is nothing wrong with using sprint training for hockey players. There are benefits to the hockey treadmill that cannot be achieved from sprinting, and there are benifits from on ice training that cannot be achieved on the treadmill.
Everything has it’s place in time.
And what about the opposite ?
so, the use of a “Ride-On” or a “Kick-Scooter” to train muscles need for sprint ?
It´s a good idea ? Does anyone have tryied this before with success ?
Lol, Flying. I hope you are kidding if not I’m totally scared.
Why? I was thinking of introducing a scooter training system. Oh! I forgot, they have one already. It’s called JK.
Seriously Firebird. Tell me how exactly a skating treadmill would be a benefit to hockey players?
One point worth mentionning is that hockey players have an extroardinary number of asthmatics, which, I believe stems from the Zamboni machines that are working all day long in arenas. Outdoor training off-season is a great benefit in this case and so there’d better be a great reason to do more heavy breathing indoors than is the case already.
let’s talk about these hockey T-mills. Are we kidding here?
I´m not 
Wow, uh ok.
Why not a skateboard then. You can work on your stabilizers a lot more that way.
No time to learn how to “ride” on skateboards.
I guess the first question would be what are you using it for? (treadmill)
What is the purpose of your training? (what quality are you trying to improve?)
If it is speed?
You can not apply a powerful application of force to a moving object (the surface must be immobile). The treadmill surfaces move!
To improve speed you must improve propulsion capabilities (the ability to apply fore quickly).
Most people have the ability to create a high frequency with their legs in the air (in between contact), however, ground contact (propulsion phase) becomes the limiting factor.
Treadmills do not allow athletes the opportunity to apply force long enough because the ground is moving (treadmill). Frequency is increased at the expense of stride length. When this happens triple extension of the ankle, knee, and hip are altered and athletes are not able to generate the forces needed to improve speed (technique is compromised).
Hill work and flat ground work is your best choice, other than training on ice, to improve speed and technique.
I do not this “crazy” method yet but some coach said that in my strides i´m not aplying forces to the ground properly, also he said that my style of stride/footstrike is totaly useless for sprints, he use to say that i´m just “jumping” over track and not pushing the floor backward, so, that´s why he was thinking introduce this “method”.
He believe this will help me on this problem giving me power on my legs and teaching me how to aply forces producing eficient movements on the track.