Times for Divisions

2007 Men’s 100 Meters NAIA Outdoor National Championships

Men 100 Meter Dash

   World: W  9.77  6/14/2005   Asafa Powell, JAM                           
American: U  9.79  6/16/1999   Maurice Greene, Nike                        

Collegiate: C 9.92 1996 Ato Boldon, UCLA
NAIA Champs.: N 10.05 1992 Davidson Ezinwa, Azusa Pacafic, CA
2006 Champ.: 6 10.20 5/27/2006 Yhann Plummer, SUNO
FPU Track: F 10.20 5/27/2006 Yhann Plummer, SUNO
Name Year School Prelims

Section 1 Finals Wind: 1.7
1 Mike Rodgers SR Oklahoma Baptist 10.21 10
2 Orion Nicely JR McKendree 10.34 8
3 Jamal Forbes FR Dickinson 10.42 6
4 William Collins FR Huston-Tillotson 10.61 5
5 D’Antagnan Dai’ne FR Doane 10.64 4
6 Tal Mor SR Azusa Pacific 10.66 3
7 Tommy Gayfield SO Missouri Valley 10.70 2
8 Pat Small JR Virginia Int 11.36 1

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Just posted those results to give you an indicator of what it looks like at the national scene for DII, NAIA, and DIII. I think you’re aware of DI is very competitive with guys running sub 10/20 at the national and even regional level.

It all depends on the school and the event. There are d3 schools that can match up with decent d1 schools and give them a run for their money in certain events.

Every division has junk schools that pretty much anyone can get into and compete even at d1. Every division also has powerhouses obviously the d1 powerhouses are going to be a lot harder than the rest.

It is not hard to compete at schools 90% of schools will let just about anyone compete.

yeah the conditions for the meet were awful. Besides the headwind, you have cold temps and rain for most of the meet, so the times do not really reflect the quality of competition for the season.

umm just look at the results. You want to win nationals at the D1 level you cannot run anything but 10.0x pretty much, even if the conditions aren’t the best. D2 seems to vary a bit more. Of course, as pope said, you can get in and/or run at almost any place, but is there a point in going out and running 11.2 if somebody is going to beat you by 1 second in your heat? Kind of degrading and not conducive to running your best. Getting $$ is also a completely different situation.

Yea soaking rain is fun. The winner ran 10.40 with minimum effort the day prior.

Thanks everybody for the info. What do you mean by “Getting $$ is a completely different situation.” R u talking about prize money or getting in?

I think he may have meant scholarship money.

Scholarship money… I don’t know what you keep talking about by saying “getting in”

He means getting accepted to run for them, and getting money to do it (which is illegal unless its a scholarship or something). Scouting perhaps?

Either way as you can see the D3 schools themselves have a lot of competition as it is. D1 is the best there is and thus they will be the best…unless your always ahead of your competition then the chance of even getting into a D3 team is low let alone winning.

Not sure about that, there are a lot of teams with not so good runners (depends on what you consider good, average, great, etc too). Just because you aren’t National Caliber for D1A doesn’t mean you can’t run for the school. When I ran JC track a year back, we’d race Cal and other D1 schools all the time. But they were the “B” squad guys I’m guessing because their 4x4 was about 3:20-3:19 and there were JC teams faster than that.

He can make the team anywhere I think as long as he has decent speed and is willing to work and be consistent.

Because I know that getting scholarships for D1 schools is very competitive, if times are fast, one can quite “easily” get a (even full) scholarship at a “junk” D1 school and although the team will probably be doing poorly at meets as a whole, as an individual, you get a chance to compete against good D1 schools all the time…
Of course poor coaching could be a problem, but that is not always the case.

Thoughts?

Stefanie I would say you are pretty close to the mark with that one. I woudl still caution that the athlete should look at the competition though even at D1. I know the conference a school by my home town is in at D1 isnt much better or better at all than D3 conferences.
Conference championship results:http://www.northeastconference.org/Sports/moutdoor/2007/moutdoorfull.asp

Also if the team is getting scholarships and still cant get any good athletes I usually take it as a lack of trying or caring by the coach. If you are getting d3 schools out recruting a team that gets 12 scholarships the coach probably isnt going all out trying to get athletes.

In my opinion you would be surpised how little effort it would actually take to field a stellar team in any division in the US because so few coaches actively recruit at the small school level.

Good points. I wasn’t aware of D1 conferences performing at such mediocre level as a whole.

I am aware of very competitive D3 schools, and it is also useful to mention that when a good recruiting D3 coach really wants good athletes, there is a way to work out some sort of an “academic scholarship” to attract the athlete, and technically he/she doesn’t receive any athletic grants, which are officially not allowed in D3 but gets the financial benefit from elsewhere. This of course works best with very good students who are worthy of an academic scholarship. The coach just helps to “push” the process and makes sure the athlete receives what is necessary to be able to attend the school from a financial point of view (and hence embellish the team).

Unfortunately most good sprinters aren’t geniuses :slight_smile:

I’m in Canada not the U.S so this is very interesting!

I know for D1 Football you have no chance in hell of getting practice squad status if you’re not extremely good and have the possibility of playing at some point…but on T&F you can still run regardless of whether your competing or not?

And the results for women in the various divisions?

Depends on the school and coach really. From my understanding Curtis Frye down at USC-e will let anybody join the team and practice if they show the effort, but I have heard some others won’t let you practice with the team if you cannot potentially be a point scorer as you simply get in the way.

The latter is what I thought…

That’s awesome though about Frye. Definitely respect that name now (not that I didn’t before, I’ve only heard him mentioned here and there and don’t know of him too well)

Oh but why do you say that? Most of us in here seem pretty smart :stuck_out_tongue:
And lets pretend we’re fast too… :wink:

And then there are those teams that will cut people because they can only have a certain amount of runners on the team, due to a certain budget the athletic department will provide for general expenses (training, gear, traveling, etc…). It’s not necessarily cutting people who won’t score, but rather picking out the least motivated or least talented.

My school had this issue: They could only allow 30 men and 30 women on the team, and at the beginning of each year we always had much more than that. But cutting was never necessary afterall > a lot of them simply quit and eventually we fell short of people :o