Tempo work

[Davan]

@Johnny

Please learn to write, and I’m being serious.

You said one correct thing in this post. Med ball circuits are a great tempo alternative.

After that, I call BS yet again. On level 15, with a 20 degree [max] incline, with 30 second bursts followed by 30 second breaks, at 200 plus rpm, for 10 to 20 intervals, your quads, glutes and hams will be feeling it BIG TIME, to the point where you can go WAY PAST the boundaries of extensive tempo. I don’t care how fit you are.

Another sign to me that you haven’t really been on the unit in question: Further to your rowing comment to Lyle, the elliptical unit in question DOES have the arms for pushing and pulling, and giving a decent full body workout effect.

To beat this dead horse, SWIMMING AND CYCLING DON’T USE BUGGER-ALL FOR GLUTES AND HAMS so your comparison is garbage, and if you’d ever upped the speed and intensity on the unit in question you’d see how foolish your comparison is.

The arms essentially do NOTHING in that machine and I did use it. I really don’t see the point of me lying about using an elliptical that I will never use again because of the unnatural motion and at least 5 better alternatives besides tempo running on grass.

I am done with you and the crap you have brought to this thread.

To the original poster:
Extensive tempo via running and a good diet will do everything you need for fat loss. Ellipticals are for old women and those who are injured or literally have NO other options. MB circuits, GS circuits, pool work, treadmill work, etc. will serve well to you if you are in weather restrictive conditions.

[Johnny]

Flyingspur, I hope you use your common sense on this one.

When you don’t have access to some good grass for tempo, the elliptical you asked about is a good alternative. Raise the elevation to the max and have some fun.

I know you don’t believe that it’s usefulness is limited to “old women”!

I’ll let you make up your own mind as to the mentality, age, and experience of someone who would give that kind of advice on an educational forum.

[Davan]

lol nice personal shot unrelated to this thread when you don’t even know me–Johnny tell us a little about yourself, great one?

[Johnny]

Never once said I was great. Every time you were disagreed with, politely I might add, you got more and more defensive and personal. Jesus this, and pointing fingers that. Telling me that the experience I have with this matter is “bringing crap to the thread”. Not cool.

Just trying to give the kid some good advice, that’s all.

Let’s move forward.

[flyingspur]

@Johnny

Hmmm. Tempo fitness and flushing, and fat loss, are two different goals for your 15 year old.

Most fat loss programs tend to be continuous tempo, say 20 to 30 minutes at say, 65-75% of your max heart rate.

Tempo work is interval based, with say 30 seconds on, 30 seconds off type work, for 10 to 20 reps. The “on” part is likely more robust than at any point in the continuous tempo routine.

I would say doing interval tempo better prepares the 15 year old for sprinting, is probably more interesting to do, and can still accomplish fat loss.

He needn’t be afraid of the treadmill if the treadmill is of decent quality and cushioned appropriately. Good luck.

Thanks. The Precor Treadmills here are also of a high quality like the Precor eliptical machines and the Concept 2 Rower.

But would steady state work for 30 minutes say 3 or 4 times a week slow him down? Considering he is playing an intermittent sport competitively?

Or Am I just being paranoid and some steady state work at least till he accomplishes his fat loss target ( needs to lose about 10 percent BF) won’t harm his speed on the field so long as he is also playing the game and doing some outdoor SAQ work?

[flyingspur]

@Davan

The arms essentially do NOTHING in that machine and I did use it. I really don’t see the point of me lying about using an elliptical that I will never use again because of the unnatural motion and at least 5 better alternatives besides tempo running on grass.

I am done with you and the crap you have brought to this thread.

To the original poster:
Extensive tempo via running and a good diet will do everything you need for fat loss. Ellipticals are for old women and those who are injured or literally have NO other options. MB circuits, GS circuits, pool work, treadmill work, etc. will serve well to you if you are in weather restrictive conditions.

Thanks. The diet is equally important as you say.

[Johnny]

@flyingspur

Thanks. The Precor Treadmills here are also of a high quality like the Precor eliptical machines and the Concept 2 Rower.

But would steady state work for 30 minutes say 3 or 4 times a week slow him down? Considering he is playing an intermittent sport competitively?

Or Am I just being paranoid and some steady state work at least till he accomplishes his fat loss target ( needs to lose about 10 percent BF) won’t harm his speed on the field so long as he is also playing the game and doing some outdoor SAQ work?

Does he like steady-state work better? If so, I can’t see a real problem.

Remember that, either way, less than 75% of effort/speed on the machine is what the doctor ordered so as not to interfere with his sports.

Sometimes kids take to intervals better, though, as there seems to be less ‘boredom’ factor. Good luck.