On a different note, Mack Brown is a douche.

You TX boys think Colt is gonna make it in the league, do any better than Tebow? His ass couldn’t make it 5 plays against Bama before he got knocked outta the damn game.

There is some pretty heavy stuff being dropped on both sided of the race coin. It almost sounds like the hes balck so he is a better athlete, while the white guy is smarter. Takes me back to Johnson and Bird. Speed is great, but you still need to be tough. Plenty of Toby Gerharts have done well in NFL. Its a style, not a skin color issue. I do disagree about Young more than Vick. Young is a leader. He has had pretty good success in the league. Vick has too, but he isn’t much of a leader in the huddle. People rally around Young. The whole white receiver thing is stupid. Look over the years, Biletnekoff, Largent, McCaffrey, Chrebet, Welker. All damn good football players. If this is the way people continue to think, then we will see few black QB’s and less white RB’s and WR. I f**cking hate the racism. I played college ball at and don’t remember this much ignorance. I am just so sick of skin color being such an issue. I am sure when the NBA draft comes around, it will be Gordon Hayward is the next Larry Bird. No wonder this country is so divided.

Being in the Pacific Northwest, I was a huge Steve Largent fan. Technically superior to most, if not all, of his counterparts. And, he was faster than most gave him credit for.


Number 2, I loved Largent and Zorn. Hawks were one of my favorite yteams growing up

I had to go on-line to figure out what Largent has done since his playing years. I didn’t know he went into politics, and now heads up some cell phone/wireless organization.

I will take Jerry Rice over any Wr.

I hear you here. I am getting pretty fed up with how every white wide receiver gets compared to Wes Welker these days. Anytime announcers start talking about a white guy playing wide out, I turn to the person watching the game with me and say, “I bet they’ll compare him to Welker in the next few sentences.” Sure enough, the line gets drawn regardless of playing style, size, abilities, and the like.

The issue is probably very biased by scouts.
The league is full in his history of Ryan Leafs on one side, and of Priest Holmes on the other.

I liked preist. what was wrong with him besides injuries

Easy ed was on of my favs. Well I was a big broncos fan than. He had one the best stiff arms in tha bizz. But the race card is funny. From a genetics standpoint blacks a generally more inclined to be faster and stronger. I guess it comes from the slave trade when only the strongest survived. Chasing zebras and chuckin spears helped out alot. :eek:

I loved the way he played!In fact , was an example " on the other side" of Ryan Leaf:)
So, a player of great success, overlookd by NFL scouts…undrafted!Then proced to have some great seasons and NFL record.

I agree with you 100%, except the zebra and spear part lol.

I also think the outliers in blacks is even further out than the white outliers. Never seen a white Bo Jackson or Usain, Hershel, or anything close really.

One year coaching track, one of the black kids on the team was very dark skinned and was always taking crap from his friends about it. One meet he ran the 400 and on the backstretch raises his arm as if he had a spear in his hand and ran that 100m stretch like that. We all were dying laughing. :smiley:

Stronger my ass! Strength sports are dominated by white athletes, olympic lifting, powerlifting, strongman etc. Faster, GENERALLY…yes, but definately not stronger.

makes me believe speed is not merely a black athlete attribute either. Perhaps they were given more opportunites as kids?

One thing I know, whenever you go to those open aau track meets, walk by the park and see a pick-up basketball game or whatever… its vastly outnumbered by blacks.

So, are they genetically advance? Im not sure, but they’re the ones putting in the extra time it seems. Coaches devote more time to more “talented” athletes, and the whites might be left behind… so the gap grows

Never seen a black gymnast, thrower or wlifter of great value btw…or a black phelps. or a black favre…proves nothing…

Now thats funny as shit. lmao!

Yes they are dominated, but is it because blacks are trying and not making the cut? All the strongest black athletes are doing what…playing football. Take those ogers who are playing football and teach them how to compete in those sports, what do you think will happen? Take Noel devine rb from wv and fl native. a power clean of 300 pounds, a 500-pound squat, a bench of 435 lbs at 175 pounds. I also saw a pic of him inclining 225 at 15 years old. What would happen if he got a great strength coach and dedicated himself to those sports. The sports blacks now dominate were once dominated by who…whites.

Well really what else do they have. It’s not like they are comming from good wealthy homes. Its a way out the ghetto.

remember Dominique Dawes? We have a few good throwers. As for swimming. again all inner city blacks know about is running, baseball and football. Oh and now speed skating:cool:

Dude, even if you are right about the genetics (I tend to agree overall with speed, but not strength), there is a give and take and it is clear that there are a lot of white skill position players that are shafted right now because of stereotypes. Other than Spiller, it is doubtful that ANY of the RBs in the draft this year are even remotely close to TG in what they accomplished, their skills, and most are not even close to his physical abilities (230lbs+ running 4.5), yet DEXTER MCCLUSTER, 5’8" 165lb situational guy, who ran a 4.5 and accomplished significantly less than TG, was taken earlier in the draft. Not to mention the many others.

I take the NFL draft with a grain of salt. Most of the players I end up liking arent even drafted high or even the first round. Thats why I dont really even watch the draft. Ofcourse you have a few that pan out to be something, but there are too many busts in the first round of the draft for me. Very rarely do you get a peyton manning highly touted and delivered.

So fucking sick of this “great white hope” shit, if you guys gonna brag about white athletes at least let them be studs.


Konz measured 6-3 and 234 pounds. He was timed in the 40-yard dash at 4.46 seconds. Asked to run a second one, he timed 4.38.

Konz also posted a 46-inch vertical jump and a broad jump of 10 feet, 8-1/4 inches.