Ben used calcium supps (ZMA is calcium sparing)
ZMA wasn’t around when Ben was running but if it was we’d have used it.
As for sleep time, I’d use it when you have time for your normal night’s sleep.
What kind of calcium form was he supplying?
I tink the oxide, carbonate are not good, the better is perhaps gluconate or chelated wtith aminoacids.
What about magnesium, do you advise it to your athletes? Because the balance beetwen Ca in Mg is very important, to much calcium cause the excitation of the nervous system.
Gakic is cool but Muscletech is the only one that makes it right now. so basically, i think its garbage.
I feel ya on the garbage-tech, but I am giving it a try…
I tried it out for the first time last night. My “preliminary clinical trial” 
leads me to believe that there may be some validity to the product. I’m keeping a log of my workouts and see how it stacks up…
And, if I dont like it, I can take it back to GNC, even if it only has one scoop left in it…
Hmm…okay. Not really an intelligent addition to this discussion. By your logic, creatine is garbage too, because they happen to sell that as well. :rolleyes:
Lo Hill - how is your trial of Gakic coming along? I have some but haven’t started using yet.
Meaning no offense, but you must have gotten a terrible interperetation from my post. By “my logic”, I’m merely stating that, in my honest opinion, Muscletech has never really provided consumers with a reliable, noteworthy product that isn’t potentially dangerous(Hydroxycut- I’ll show you a report validating this if you wish via bodybuilding.com). Frankly speaking, GAKIC seems to be quite a breakthrough yet the one and only company that is producing such a supplement is the one noted earlier.
Also, never have I implied that creatine is garbage nor am I approving that I use it. I’m merely critizing the producer, not the general product. Don’t be quick to judge.
Lastly, my first post was unintelligent, yes. However, if you look at it bluntly, every word of it is true.
Gakic update…
I like it. I dont feel like I am jacked up on something, but I am definitely taking my workouts to another level. I am NOT a big fan of MuscleTech, but I think that they may have a good product on their hands this time…
Swiftyer, I interpreted your post exactly as you meant it, but I’m not particularly interested in brand-bashing - if I wanted your sort of reply “so basically, i think its garbage” without any sort of concrete evidence to back it up, I would have posted this on bodybuilding.com and asked for the opinions of the armchair athletes there. I expect a higher level of thought on this board.
Lo Hill, that’s good to hear - thanks for the update. As soon as I lose this flu-bug I’m battling, I’m going to add it to my pre-workout supplements and see how it goes.
BTW, I had a chance to meet Dr. Stevens from the University of Florida who invented Gakic this past weekend in Vegas, and I have to say I walked away very impressed.
Gimme the scoop on what was said. What info did you get from him…gimme, gimme, gimme!
He was at the Muscletech booth at the Convention centre (I’ll attach a picture once I go home and upload them off of my camera). We chatted briefly about amino acid absorption, with regards to other protein sources and Gakic (as some athletes consume BCAA’s and whey protein prior to training). I can’t remember the whole conversation as it was very noisy in there, but from what I understood, it should be fine to take Gakic with a normal pre-workout regimen and that a study using whey protein and Gakic together would be interesting.
Also found out the “C” in GAKIC doesn’t stand for calcium, but for isoCaproic. On some of the other message boards, some of the so-called “gurus” try to advocate putting Gakic together out of singular ingredients and speculate on how much calcium is in it, but the calcium is only a calcium salt of the alphaketoisocaproate anion. (there two calcium atoms included in the molecular weight of the salt).
That was about it. Whole conversation took about 5 minutes before he had to go for a seminar.
what has everyone found whilst using this
Wow that post is a blast from the past! I’ll just chime in and say it’s a year later and it’s still a part of my pre-workout supplements - both for in gym weight-training/olympic lifts and for other training (sled dragging, med ball workouts etc.)
all ive heard is that its propaganda. not worth the money.
I bought some and used it once so my input is minimal but here goes; It tastes horrible. I took it to test it out before using it in competition. I breezed through a speed endurance workout 80-100-120-150, then upon arriving home a training partner showed up for a lifting session I forgot to cancel.
We did a full upper body workout, but I kept doing higher weights and extra sets even adding pull-ups and dips with my energy going through the roof.
I deemed it too much help and haven’t used it again since. I’m 48 and don’t want to be confused about whether its me or a supplement getting the results. (just my little idiosyncrasy)
1 part argine…
1/2 part ornathine
1/4 part taurine…
mix it well, it works… tastes like hell…
gatorade while working out,still best bang for the buck !!!
ciao
Gatorade? Puh-lease…
How about a teaspoon of sugar, mix it with water and you’re good to go…
DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE!! Results come from within, not from the outside…
gatorade is cheap… adn works wonders…
my leg workouts would blow you away…
trust me, gatorade real works great…
ciao
Gatorade is good, yes, but its not the be all and end all…Would blow me away?? Don’t be too sure of yourself, snake…What you do with Gatorade I do on an empty stomach…
Jumper, are you implying you drink on an empty stomach? You know that’s not good for you
Has anyone else tried the Muscletech stuff? Would like to know first hand…can’t trust the review sites which are usually plugged by the companies themselves.
iam not that silly…becareful…ciao