I agree whole heartedly. You see everybody and their brother using preworkout mixes these days. I related the experience of taking Jackd where I almost blacked out on incline with 335lbs. Midway through set, I thought I was going. I once drank an Endorush when I was dog tired at 10 am. I didn’t sleep for somewhere in the vicinity of 40+ hours; never again. I even watched the Notebook at 3 am. No luck, I dont know if the movie made me sad or no sleep. Haha! I use things for a jolt when I need it. I hate depending on anything, especially with athletes.