I’ve done my research on this stack and It says that it raises your Natural Test with no side effects besides acne. I am 16 years old and 5’9 im probally still growing. Do you think that this stack would act like a prohormone or steriod and stunt my growth?
Peace,
Justin
forget the tribulus and take the zma before bed.
At 16 you don’t need tribulus. You body produces tonns of testosterone already and taking trib won’t make it produce more (not until you are around 25). Besides, ZMA was never inteded to be mixed with anything else.
Try taking ZMA with some soluble fibre (increases absorption) and avoid taking it with proteins containing calcium (competes for absorption).
Check out ‘Nocte’ at www.proteinkinetics.com
Yes stacking will increase your testosterone levels but at your age you should not be supplementing at all! Remeber that ZMA and tribulus will give your body a stimulus that its never had before so once you use it the effects the second time you use it will be less.
Save this for when you start platueing at a later age over 20 years old.
David, how was your 4 month break from CF.com. I hope you got to sleep in a few times. 
Thanx for all the looks. SO ill prob jsut take ZMA with the Nocte before sleep. Zma shouldnt stunt my growth right?
ZMA is fine for a 16 year old as are many supplements. I don’t recommend tribulus cause the teen is wasting their money. Trib boosts natural test levels indeed, but in young males it was found to be almost insignificant in boosting test levels, probably due to the fact that they are two legged raging hormones already.
Nocte is the whole package - zinc and magnesium mineral support, soluble fibre & slow release/calcium free protein…
I cant seem to find Rego Nocte any where in the states. Is there any product similar to this that i can buy in the states. I was looking at other night time shakes, I found Night Charger to be similar but it doesn’t work with ZMA.
First get your nutrition in order. Do some research. Then get a good handle on training.
Then you will be able to eke out the benefits from a good supplementation regimen.
I think sometimes you are rambling out comments as if they were fact without any evidence to back them up.
Based upon current research, I doubt stacking these two products will enhance the training benefits and outcomes in anyone to any substantial amount really. I do agree that this person may be looking for unrequired answers here, but making blanket statements like you have can simply be misleading.
For instance, have you any evidence that the body builds resistance to zma administration? Many effects of ZMA seem to be associated with a metabolic zinc deficit. Replenish supply and availability and then the “effects” are less, but not really, because you just returned your system to to place it should have been.
Just be carefull is all I am saying here.
The effects of ZMA are bc they are mixed in a special way that garnishes the results that they do, personally I thought buying cheap zinc magnesium and a B vitamin complex (i.e. the ingrediants to ZMA roughly) would give me similar effects; HOWEVER, CF and HERB corrected me on this erronous error at the seminar in Vancouver! So there’s my BACKUP!
In all seriousness though I believe that ZMA stacked with Tribulus is a synergistic formula that leads to more overall testosterone production. Tribulus is a hormone, and ZMA has Zinc which increases testosterone (B6 and mangnesium I think help in the aid of zinc to testosterone production although I am not sure here so I could be rambling?). My research is done from various sources but the main one is American College of Sports Medicine.
From that same source,
Training depletes zinc and magnesium, so athletes need more of these minerals than your average Joe. Supplementing with zinc and magnesium in the form of ZMA improves recovery and sleep efficiency. In addition, zinc and magnesium are poorly absorbed if taken with calcium-containing foods. Research indicates that zinc deficiency often results in low serum testosterone and IGF-I levels in athletes, as well as increased serum estrogen and compromised androgen receptor activity. ZMA is effective in increasing anabolic hormone levels, including free testosterone and IGF-I. ZMA has lead to greater gains in muscle strength and power. Use ZMA on an empty stomach before bedtime to maximize absorption and utilization.
Training depletes zinc and magnesium, so athletes need more of these minerals than your average Joe. Supplementing with zinc and magnesium in the form of ZMA improves recovery and sleep efficiency. In addition, zinc and magnesium are poorly absorbed if taken with calcium-containing foods. Research indicates that zinc deficiency often results in low serum testosterone and IGF-I levels in athletes, as well as increased serum estrogen and compromised androgen receptor activity. ZMA is effective in increasing anabolic hormone levels, including free testosterone and IGF-I. ZMA has lead to greater gains in muscle strength and power. Use ZMA on an empty stomach before bedtime to maximize absorption and utilization.
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Notice as it is stated here that the effects are when athletes have reduced zinc levels. It is important to note these details. To my knowledge there has never been any evidence to back up a claim that any increase in test production will occur when consumed during normal zinc status, not to say that it does not have any other positive benefits. And also we must take not to clarify test levels and free test as this does make a differnce in the outcome, especially when it comes to trib supplementation.
Not clear which supplements create which effect
Agreed as well.