spike
As you know there are a number of different factors that can contribute to a personal best performance, including; preparation, peaking, track quality, location, wind conditions, quality competition, overall physical and mental conditions on the day, local competition, interstate or international competition etc. As a coach one would need to factor in all applicable factors and then make a call.
Sevastocrator,
and some people think coaching is easyā¦Well good luck with your athleteās hopefully we see lots of great performances from both Track and Field and the results saturates the media over that time period.
Those runs were at the Olympics and world championships. Thatās a little more reliable than some random meet.
spike
Thanks, you too.
I just happen to watch PJās 100m and 200m performances from Melbourne (SBS Channel). I have to mention him in this discussion because apart from him and Davies no other sprinter ran in Perth recently (and at that point in time). ARS has not run at the meet in Melbourne, and Lawal has not run in Perth yet. It leaves me with PJ only.
At this stage Iād like to think the track (and good tail wind) in Perth may largely contribute to some outstanding recent performances. If one thinks peaking and periodisation plays a major role, taking PJās example, Iād like to point out the following;
Now, Letās take ARS and Lawal into consideration, as well.
If ARS repeats his performance at the Nationals (peak?) and runs faster or as fast (letās take under 10.30) when having the best competition around himself, Iād say he is in a good form;
Lawal has not run in Perth yet and his best time (this season) is 10.33 (if I am right) - pretty much similar to ARSās previous PB. I saw both of them last year when Lawal ran 10.29 (fastest in AUS last year) and on one more occasion (canāt remember the results anymore). Lawal seems to me a faster runner than ARS (or at least until now). Now, if Lawal runs in Perth at the Nationals and beats PJ and ARS in his PB time of anywhere from 10.10-10.20 (PB 10.29 - 0.20 the Perth track factor), it will only confirm that the track is the fastest in AUS. PJ and ARS would need to back up their performances (10.18 and 10.17) to make this argument valid.
If this eventuates, what I would like to see is any of the mentioned sprinters back up their performances at any other track anywhere in AUS or in the world.
Is this realistic to expect from the above athletes?
PJ is 37-38 y.o. and his clock is ticking away. Lawal is over 30 himself. So, it all comes down to Davies and ARS (youngest) to prove that they can run fast (qualifiers) on any other track. Once that happens - Iād say - $hit, it is talent, proper training and periodisation, indeed!
Until that happens, I will be looking forward for my athletes to run (fast) in Perth, too 
Just airing some wind.
should be more of it
Winding air or running in Perth?
Hows the Stawell gift going, anyway?
Both.
I am not at the Stawell Gift but I do have a certified steel tape measure. An epdm would be more accurate.
sounds like many sprinters/ coaches who havenāt posted fast times are jealous of the times posted in Perth, simple ego-protecting, anyone can find statās to support their argument by cherry picking.
no doubt Perth is fast, but everyone wont run a legit PB there.
Maybe they are suggesting there should be more fast tracks, I seem to recall that no athlete has run under 10s in Australia yet can on a regular basis in other countries. Wonder how many of those other countries have indoor tracks built to improve performanc.
I would suggest a windtunnel huilt into the track may have worked.
You cannot do something properly without first experiencing it.
What is it like having sex or having your arm chopped off, there are things in life you have to go through to feel what it is like.
Just harmless dribble.
Actually one of the coaches who has these views has an athlete that recently pbād in Perth. And the only stats that have been posted on here have been high level stats (not picking and choosing low level ones that appear to support an argument), so I really donāt know what youāre suggesting.
I personally think that another Aussie track that can consistently produce fast times is an exciting prospect, and if correctly managed could help boost the profile of the sport in this country. However it may be a two edged sword; internationally, Australians have a (some might say well deserved) reputation of only being able to run fast domestically and as such can have difficulty getting lanes overseas compared with lesser athletes. One track that can consistently produce fast times may perpetuate, if not exacerbate, this. Similarly, if these times cannot be matched os, particularly at major champs, our own supporter base and media may see this as an easy generalization to make as well.
Letās hope itās managed well.
Dazed - Exactly right!
stilljd_5
Maybe they are suggesting there should be more fast tracks, I seem to recall that no athlete has run under 10s in Australia yet can on a regular basis in other countries. Wonder how many of those other countries have indoor tracks built to improve performanc.
We finally agree on something 
I heard Perth are bringing in the smartest guys in Stawell, you know ā¦ the guys who measured the track at Central Park, so thatāll sort out all of Perthās issues. So much for a fast track. None of that chaps. Every track race from now on will be at least 3.2 metres per 100m too long. OK so the 400m is ā¦ (4 x 2.3m = 9.2) ā¦ now going to be contested over 409.2m. Donāt complain though, you may not qualify for the Commonwealth Games but you can make a claim for a world record at the new official distance. Ditto for the Stay Well gift. They can claim another world professional record for the official, though rarely run distance of 123.2m. Sorry Youngy but really ā¦ what a joke
I can think of an athlete you coached back in the day who has made a nearly identical claim (among others :rolleyes: ). Pretty funny stuff.
I know plenty of athletes who have been to Perth and not run PBās- no doubt the track is good but you have to be good shape to make the most of the conditions.
From memory PJ ran 9.91,9.88 windy on the old perth track and still ran fast over seas(9.93 ) - same can be said for Shirvo.
A trip to Perth doesnāt = Pb, when you factor travel from the East Coast ( 14 hrs both ways ) and adjustment in time zones- etc athletes really sacrifice 5 days of training to race there and take a financial hit. If they do PB congratulations- balance of probabilities most athletes wonāt PB there, especially when you consider all the other variables when racing in Perth.
And Perthās current golden boy Ben Offereins has run his PB (for 400m, thatās his primary distance) on the weathered track in Sydney this year.
most of the times getting the attention is for the 100m, not sure I have come across many breakthrough PBs in the 200 or 400, probably because the favourable tailwind for the 100m means a back straight headwind for the 400m
It that a good or bad thing, I wouldnāt run 400 for quids.
Not sure about the layout of the new stadium. Are they racing the 100m from west to east (towards the inland). Thatās how it used to be at the old track. But I was there in 87 when Ben ran against Allan Wells and they turned it around and Ben won walking to the line in 9.7 hand & windy.
Itās great when officials go to the trouble of turning the 100s around so athletes benefit from the wind on any given day. But it would be much better if the track designers allowed in their plans to run the sprints in either direction.
It would be just as easy to run on the otherside of the track, if anyone breaks an Aust record running in the wrong direction it wonāt be recognised. The IAAF rules say curbing on the left in lane one.
Sometimes the attitude who cares comes to mind.