olifts question

I was very resistant to using the 1 arm DB snatch as a teaching tool when I first saw it - especially with young athletes whose shoulders have not been properly prepared to handle the stresses of the lifts. Many of the less coordinated younger athletes often have some issues fixing the DB overhead, and coming from a rehab background I would just cringe watching some of them perform the lift.

That being said, I have since changed my stance. The coaches at the facility where I now work have been using the lift extensively, and I have been incorporating it more and more over the past year as a teaching tool. Although I only tend to use it for short periods of time before moving onto the barbell, I would also agree that it is good for teaching the basic mechanics of the lift (pull, triple ext., etc). Also a easier to teach when working with large groups of athletes.

As for picking up the snatch easier - Herb makes a good point, some pick up the snatch easier, some pick up the clean easier. Probably learning the 1 arm variation makes the transition to the BB snatch easy. However, even before teaching the 1 arm variation, I still found the power snatch from the hang easier to for the majority of athletes (and by easier I mean from the time I start teaching the lift to the time they are fairly proficient at it) simply because you don’t have to worry about the transition from the pull to the rack in the clean. As I said, I still prefer teaching the clean first, though.

As I stated above, I will typically teach the clean variation first. However, when I teach the snatch variation, I will go straight from the wide snatch grip - usually with the broom stick to make it easier before transitioning to the BB. I really don’t find the ‘uncomfortableness’ of the width to be an issue - learning the OL in general is something new to most athletes, and they generally tend to feel a little uncomfortable either performing the narrow or wide grip. I personally don’t like using the broomstick when teaching the clean variations, as most male athletes I deal with just aren’t flexible enough at first to rack it properly without the weight of the BB.

Exactly my point, Herb! You can’t assume that everyone is ready to start with one or the other… I didn’t expect utfootball4 to answer anyway!

if u thought that i meant that EVERY athlete can clean before they snatch then u r a idiot bc u will always have one or two athletes that will snath before clean. i dont care what u say or who you have spoken to, the fact is the clean is the easiest lift to teach. also u may think the snatch is easy to learn but MOST of athletes who perform the snatch are not technically proficient to do them bc from what i have learned they should be able to at least snatch 80% of what they clean, now how many athletes do u know that can do that?

This argument is so fundamentally flawed, it’s not even funny. However, as I learned in the JC thread, it’s completely useless and too time consuming trying to even have a ‘discussion’ with someone such as yourself.

lol. fundamentally flawed.

I probably am! For wasting my time with you. Not any more, boy!

Someone gave me a negative rep point for my comment here. Haha. :smiley:

sounds like somebody is jealous.

Some people and those damn rep points. I’ve deserved negative points in the past (and gotten them, thank you) but I see no point in it’s use here.

What are rep points?

Points members give you when your post/opinion is WORTHY :smiley: or when they think you’re a grease ball :mad: . It’s the equivalency of high school popularity. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I wear my negative rep points proudly. It shows me I’m not a complete tool.