How fast are you?
That question is right up there with “How much do you bench?” Remember this forum is for athletes and coaches. My point is that John and I were trying to answer your question. You don’t seem open to the response. Calling someone a dumb-ass won’t get you very far.
Good luck with your training.
First of all your not helping me with anything, second I didn’t call anyone a dumbass.
I was simply quoting not necessarily saying do that. Like you At my age, I want training to be fun and not painful. but IMHO if someone isn’t injured and can’t physically hack 2 x 2000m at < 75% then they need to ask questions as to why, maybe the other days are too high? Or maybe they simply need to suck it up and commit to tempo for 8 weeks.
Daily therapy doesn’t have to be massage.
That said conditioning doesn’t have to be running, personally I use my indoor rower a fair bit and there is a bike tempo download and
pool work is discussed. I know some people like weights circuits however personally I don’t and think combined with HI track followed by weights is too much, but hey that is me and my performance sucks so maybe I’m just full piss and wind…wouldn’t be the first time and won’t be the last 
Oh come on now…
and you’re not even old 
There’s no point in training if you’re in your comfort zone all the time. Charlie said tempo should make you tired when doing it, it just doesn’t stress your CNS. There’s nothing wrong with getting tired, it actually makes you feel younger. And you say that you feel old, so maybe there’s a correlation here? I’m just saying.
I understand the thought behind training minimally while improving, but at least challenge yourself during that minimum time. :o
I understand what you saying John, I mention earlier when my speed and weight intensity/volume is high; tempo is very hard for me vs when I am inseason maint. As a athlete I have always struggle with conditioning work even going back to peewee football. Also like I mention earlier that spec end work and 200m races does more for my conditioning then any tempo workout. BTW, I could probably do those tempo sessions but I’m sure something else would suffer.
I wonder if half the problem with tempo is that you find it Boring.
I do mine at a park, by a river. I go by time n not distance. Ie, 3min on where we run to a group of trees, do some exercises, run to another, more exercises etc. By the time 3min is up, we have done 1lap n about 5lots of exercises.
Rest 3min n repeat.
Sure is hard during, but the CNS is left alone. Heavy weights can still be done later on easy.
Sure legs get tight as u say, use a foam roller n mediball for therapy n tightness no longer is much of an issue.
Also look for Magnesium complex tabs to reduce tight muscles.
I now foamrolling as much as I train. I find the time. No excuses.
Legs r now better at 35 than when I was 20
You can always find an excuses Not to do something. Finding a a way so that you Can do it, requires guts n planning n the will.
My 3 current best clients are, 51, 59 n 64
They improve the quickest because they put the work in. They don’t look for excuses, they look for ways to recover faster so they can keep training, no matter what.
The female at 59 puts guys in their 20s to shame.
Double posting
2000 tempo 3x a week does not warrant extra therapy in my opinion; it’s the sprint training, and weight lifting that does because it can make you sore and tight, well, at least for me.
Exactly, I go to Sams Club and buy Epsom salt for 5 bucks and now I have a new gym down the street from me that has huge brand new sauna that I use. This same therapy is all in the CFTS.
There are some pro coaches who disagree.
Tempo makes my feet and calfs tight…
Obviously people responds to things differently.
I failed to mention that I do all my tempo on dirt and gravel tracks.
If you run in workboots you would know how to run fast.
Work boots? lol!!
Smith actually does it both ways. It starts out as tempo early (November) then gets faster, more like IT in December, with 200s and 300s SE1/SE mixed with 60s in January for indoors. The Tellez style weeks start later with 4/3/2 or 3/2/1 on Mondays, just like TT.
I need to get after that hammer strength.
In Bolts book he says weights helps him with the last 20m of a 200.
Remember, he said the LAST 20 of a 200, not the first 10 of a 100. He has talked about his weights helping strength-endurance. This is NOT Ben’s weight program or anything even remotely like it.
We know this yes. I thought you felt Bolt wasn’t doing anything close to the article you saw on ET.com, however from the photos and videos I have seen it actually is much closer to the article than what everyone thought. In fact the photos and videos look just like what you see in Bolt’s interview on STACK.com. And he is just as fast as anyone else over 30.
Actually, this is what I’m saying. I have no reason not to believe what Bolt said in the Stack interview. And he runs 6.30-6.32 without doing any heavy weights, and apparently any reps below 10. Bolt also does short-long after the GPP. When people talk about not doing any realistic overdistance so they can lift heavy weights, I think they have their priorities mixed up.
Hey bro, how did your season go last year? Do you think all the overdistance work will take you to the next level (10.0-10.1)?