fogelson, I know that you feel it is your prerogative to be argumentative, however at least take the time to read what you are objecting to. Go back to my first post, I think you will find that nothing that I have said conflicts with your perspective - sorry. In fact agree almost entirely with what you just posted and the comment re: star players was an exception rather than the rule. I think the fact that it gives opportunities to those who would otherwise not have them is a great thing - the externalities associated with education leaves everyone better off. However how much time should be allocated to either scholastics or training is not something I currently have an opinion on as I don’t know how these people use their time.