Mike Barwis - "Barwis Methods"

Angela,
Those guys are absolutely right. People call me a hater because Im from michigan state (michigans rival). Alot of people dont know but our head strength and conditioning coach did a internship under mike gittleson (the former head s&c coach at mich) before he came to msu. I have had the opportunity to speak with Gittleson a few times and I must admit he’s a very smart individual. Granted I (along with others) dont like the HIT system but some of his other ideas were very good. Speaking to him 1 on 1 I ask him his personal opinion of why his former university is going into the crapper and his opinion of the new regine that took over. He wouldnt say in words but his facial expressions said 1000 words.
I wont name the former players but they coach at a rival high school near me so of course them being from mich & me from state we talk trash but we’re friends, but they told me that they were thinking of going back to there beloved school to help out but the vibe and attitude they got from the new regine is not good at all plus they didnt make them feel welcome.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention these guys went to the nfl or at least they went into nfl camp so you would tend to think they would provide some type of guidance or good advice but arrogance took over so as most football people can see the end result.

Hey the guys at our garage said
This car needs to be driven Fast!

You are just the woman to do it. I used to have a BMW 5 series and you couldn’t tell you were going fast at all. Was doing 140 mph before and it was smooth. Glad I didn’t get caught. The ticket would have put me in the poor house.

How did you like the maintenance bills? :slight_smile:

How can you say the program in going into the crapper, it’s still early. Is it because they have a different philosophy then you?

I mostly lurk around here. But as a U of M alum I have to just throw in my two cents about Mike Barwis.

F$@! Mike Barwis.

Thanks, I feel better.

Another hater, don’t lurk - what’s your name so I can share with U of M staff.

Oil changes were a little steep, but never really had to fix anything major. Oil change was around $80. I am sure it could get expensive out of warranty. Nobody makes cars like the Germans. Looking at a used Audi A8 for when I am in Physicians Assistant school. Don’t want to have car payment. Got to live lean for a couple years, especially with a 7 month old at home and a limited training schedule. Also, Highlander was a Spartan athlete, so he is excused for hating all that is U of M. I think Barwis BS’s too much about lifts and too many people follow the smash em philosophy that Barwis espouses. I just don’t like having to explain to parents that pounding you kids into the ground week after week isn’t good. Parent’s are gullible and they think that’s the way to do it because they do it at U of M. That is my only complaint. I honestly don’t care what he does, but so far it has been abysmal.

Trust me RB34, its not just a difference of philosophy. When is the last time you heard of U of M getting ncaa infractions? Granted we got embarrased by John L. Smith and Bobby Williams did ok but nothing to brag home about but Rich Rod (another butt for brains) has embarrased them dramatically! I found it hilarious myself considering the amount of arrogance that they protrude toward the world. Trust me if you lived up here you would know what im talking about
"As for the lurker LBSS, Thats FUNNY!

Maybe I’m bias but I love the U of M staff.

Yeah I would say your biased. To give credit where credit is due the baseball, track and gymnastics are excellent and Ive met them an there good people. Now the S&C staff is idiots controlled by 1 main idiot. I know people who train some kids there an they all hate the football staff, well at least rich rod and barwis.

Yeh, I’ll take a BMW any day over a benz. My mom has had her BMW for about 10yrs and hate the maintenance bill.

I like winners and they win…

Why you like them?

All I hear and read is that Rich Rod is not well thought of by many at all.

1: Barwis learn under Al Johnson who is a legend, no one “bitch” when he had WVU and OSU winning. Barwis uses a similar system as Big Al, when Big Al was at WVU they did workouts such as 16x220 uphill!!!

2: Rich is a great football coach, gotta give him time. It’s like going from a run and shoot offense to a wish bone, it takes time to get your guys in place. U of M fans need to get over it and learn how to adopt to change.

3: I have spoken to coaches, scouts, former players and they all had good things to say about Rich. Was he a tough ass coach - Yes. Did he yell, scream, and use F-bombs - Yes. After all he is coaching college football - not peewee.

when did rich rod win games at michigan? takes great players and wins 5 games. Edit: so you think he’ll win 8-9 games next year? If he doesn’t, he is not what he’s hyped up to be. I can name 10 coaches off the top of my head that won more games that he in their first seasom-- with equal or less talent.

barwis sounds like a smart guy. But he doesn’t say anything that any other S&C would “say”

Its a shame a guy like him is a “unique” coach in college football. Every coach has their own method and gets paid to work their plan-- whether it works or not.

Following a 10-2 (5-2 Big East) season in 2007 in which his team won the Big East title and a Bowl Championship Series berth, he was named the AFCA Region I Co-Coach of the Year, sharing the honor with Boston College’s Jeff Jagodzinski.

Look at the track record, it takes time, learn the game before you go talking non-sense.

1988 Salem 2-8
1990 Glenville State 1-7-1
1991 Glenville State 4-5-1
1992 Glenville State 6-4

1993 Glenville State 10-3, WVIAC champion
1994 Glenville State 8-3, WVIAC champion
1995 Glenville State 8-2, WVIAC champion
1996 Glenville State 6-4, WVIAC champion

2001 West Virginia 3-8, 1-6
2002 West Virginia 9-4, 6-1 Continental Tire/L, 22-48 (Virginia)
2003 West Virginia 8-5, 6-1 Big East champion Gator Bowl/L, 7-41 (Maryland)
2004 West Virginia 8-4, 4-2 Big East champion Gator Bowl/L, 18-30 (Florida State)
2005 West Virginia 11-1, 6-0 Big East champion Sugar Bowl/W, 38-35 (Georgia)
2006 West Virginia 11-2, 5-2 Gator Bowl/W, 38-35 (Georgia Tech)
2007 West Virginia 10-2, 5-2 Big East champion Fiesta Bowl (Oklahoma)

16x220. damn.

I got no problem with him besides that freaky looking wife of his. I watched his WVU team destroy Miss State, embarrassing.

learn the game? The way i see it, if he doesn’t win 7+ games this year, he’s out at Michigan. He went 3-9 and 5-7. It takes time to take a loser to a winner, not a team that went 9-3 the yera before and turn them into a 3-9 team.

iowa state new coach paul rhoads took a 2-10 team from the year before and went 7-6 his first year including a bowl win. Does michigan not have the talent lowly iowa state does?

with him philosophically and likely never will. Like I said, I just hate having to explain that running the absolute piss out of your kids isn’t the anwser to all that ails teams. Barwis tries to beln way too many schools of training into one cohesive program and so far has had little to show for it. Especially the second half advantage. They got mopped up in the 3rd quarter all year. I think he is a great motivator who get’s kid’s to buy into what he does. That’s a plus, but his constant bullshitting about max lifts is bordering on ridiculous. I watch Mike Martin several times in high school and he was a beast, but I will bet my condo he doesn’t clean anywhere near 475 lbs. Like I said, Pudzianowski who is the Worlds strongest man said he has cleaned 496 lbs. I find it hard to believe that a 21 year old is doing a clean 20 lbs off that. Charts are unreliable indicators at that level of weight. I just wish he would stop with all the insanity. No S&C coach has ever gotten more fan fare than Barwis, most of it undeserved from my opinion. I was a huge WVU fan by the way.