Matt Forte Hill workout

So you don’t do any speed work with your ballers?

I guess these NFL guys should spend their time doing those rubberband exercises like TO and Reggie Bush. Funny how there is a barrage every off-season of NFL guys discussing daily on twitter that they are lifting and sprinting (usually gassers). For most people gassers seem to take more recovery time than true accel work.

I guess Ian Danney is probably eschewing accels now in fear his guys will not be recovered…

This wasn’t a normal NFL season, the players I had the opportunity to work with we did very little speed work. Shit, the first 4-6 weeks is spent getting therapy and performing corrective work. We would then progress to a block of ext tempo/general fitness - leading to one speed day per and gradually moving to three high intensity days which may includes OTA’s etc. To many things you must take into consideration when training NFL football players - aka GROWN MEN!!! If you are trying to grow a business it’s about keeping clients = you must keep them happy while delivering results = give and take = being flexible with your philosophy.

All common sense. I can’t understand why someone would do something different honestly, but they evidently do…

Regardless of whether or not they are talented, freaks, or whatever, running up a hill with a weighted vest is probably not a good idea don’t you agree?

RE: Clients…duh.

Read James comment. It’s not my job to say if it’s a good idea - give and take. You may have 2 days that “you” would call great workouts and one shitty session to please the client/coach. If it’s all common sense why do people still fuck it up??

You answered your own question, common sense is not all that “common”. Why you picking on me man…go find Lyle.

Who’s picking on you? Do you think it’s smart that Pitt did 200-300m hills?

Why would you other than:

  1. Head coach wants you to.
  2. Athlete belief in it is very high/tradition.

Clearly you get in shape doing it.

Time out:

Read up on mitochondrial biogenesis at the level of the myocardium (work:rest:intensity:movement dynamic parameters [hint: you won’t find much western research in this area]) and you’ll understand the efficacy of the longer hill runs at the beginning of summer training.

Point is they don’t fit ll400 methods. Thought you didn’t like the long hills. I can’t type a long message because I’m on my blackberry.

What the hell are you talking about “fit my methods”. Unlike some im gray and not black or white. I’m not an either or person. You can’t tell me intuition tells you to run 300m hills with football players. James is smart and if he does that I want to know why because it goes against the grain of what most on here would do.

You tell me big dog. Just work the cut.

I was initially opposed to the idea of lactic loads on the long hills until I had some communication with a Bulgarian associate of mine who provided me with information that elucidated the value of mitochondrial biogenesis at the level of the myocardium prior to the same in the skeletal muscles.

This is essentially the lone exception to my general criticism of lactic training for athletes competing in speed/power disciplines that do not require special endurance.

Thanks. That clears up why. And originally you assumed and thought the same as I did it seems.

Is that from Dasheva’s work?
Is it in a format you could share? Or is it from her text?

Yes, Zhelyaskov and Dasheva.

They approved me re-printing their text and distributing it through my site.

I will inform when it’s a go.

James do you know Forte’s trainer?

If it’s the same guys I’m thinking he seems to be pretty popular.

In the article it says that he is trained by a celebrity trainer. I do not know him.

Excellent!!

Any update on this James?

This type of run is in KitKat’s GPP (3 sets of 40 second hill run, jogback rest, repeat), and I like it because you get fit in a hurry with minimal risk of injury, because you’re not really going fast. The other benefit appears to be that the recovery time is minimal- I felt like I could run speed the next day if needed no problem. I wonder if the recovery time is similar to the recovery from 600m runs, which I believe Charlie indicated was virtually 24 hours.

James, RB, lr1400, any comments regarding the recovery time required from runs of this type in your experience?