RB34: “Will post Xman strength training workout.”
I think that was in RB34’s first post.
he also said he gained a bunch of weight. 20 pounds or something…
My whole point regarding the weight numbers was once again sprinters don’t have to bench 400 and squat 600 and probably the only one who ever got close to that was Ben Johnson. A lot of people think you have to be freaky strong or chase numbers. You just need some decent strength like Xman numbers. His numbers are what I would expect Bolt Powell Tyson Bailey etc. to lift. Very good strength levels but nothing freaky like everybody thinks. No bullshit 400 lbs benches.
Just from reading a lot of peoples posts and coaches comments and my own personal thoughts it’s common to think or hope that if they hit certain gym numbers they will be running super fast.
My whole point regarding the weight numbers was once again sprinters don’t have to bench 400 and squat 600 and probably the only one who ever got close to that was Ben Johnson. A lot of people think you have to be freaky strong or chase numbers. You just need some decent strength like Xman numbers. His numbers are what I would expect Bolt Powell Tyson Bailey etc. to lift. Very good strength levels but nothing freaky like everybody thinks. No bullshit 400 lbs benches.
Just from reading a lot of peoples posts and coaches comments and my own personal thoughts it’s common to think or hope that if they hit certain gym numbers they will be running super fast.
Evidence on the side that most sprinters are not freaky strong.
lol…
But wasn’t that one of the very reasons why Ben had such a great start over the likes of Carl & the rest of his fellow competitors?.
Hence a staple to his greatness.
Asafa has a freaky start, Bolt has a really good start (freaky for sure for 6’5). Mo had a really good start, I would call it freaky.
None squat 600, not even Mo who has better levers for lifting.
So documenting Asafa, Bolt etc means we should all start getting lazy in the gym?.
I read Mo could squat 505lbs at a bodyweight of around 170-175?. No mean feat to say the least. Dwain Chambers who in his early days particularly over 60m had incredible starts over the rest.
You have to associate numbers with amazing starts out of the blocks, acceleration etc. I’ve seen it with Mo, Ben, Dwain dominating “weaker” sprinters constantly across the board.
Here we go, getting off topic.
http://www.snelkracht.nl/html/net-articles/mo_greene.html
Maurice Greene’s Training regimen
Mark, this has got to be In-season training, cuz its very similar to Ato’s inseason…not to much recovery wise for strength base training. For Mo’s off season, I would split this over 3 days.
Tues and Thurs…Upper Body (no more than a minute rest between sets)
[ul]
[li]Bench Press…5 X 10, 8, 6, 6, 6
[/li][li]Incline DB Press…3 X 15
[/li][li]Rear Delt DB Flyes…3 X 15
[/li][li]Straight-Arm-Front DB raises…3 X 10
[/li][li]Arm Running motion with DBs…4 X 4 (15 lbs, 10 second burst, 30 sec rest)
[/li][li]Dumbell Curls…3 X 15 (45 lbs, alternating arms)
[/li][li]Lat Pull Downs…3 X 10 (wide grip)
[/li][li]Dumbell Shrugs…3 X 10
[/li][/ul]
Mondays and Fridays…Lower Body
[ul]
[li]Squats…4 X 10, 8, 6, 3 (each rep is held at the bottom for 5 seconds, then explodes up)
[/li][li]Power Cleans…5 X 3 (start at bottom in deadlift position, snatch BB up top chest, drop the BB back down on floor)
[/li][li]OR, Clean/Front Squats…5 X 5 (start same as power clean, snatch weight to chest, then squat. Dont do squats or cleans when including this exercise)
[/li][li]Single Leg Curls…3 X 10
[/li][li]Single Leg Extentions…3 X 10
[/li][/ul]
Drive Phase Training: Fridays, after weight room and track.
[ul]
[li]Run stadium steps
[/li][li]Hop Up stadium steps (run down)
[/li][li]Lunge stadium steps (lung 2-3 steps at a time, run down)
[/li][li]Bounding (8 hurdles)
[/li][li]Sandbox bounding
[/li][li]Striding (3 sets of 30 strides)
[/li][/ul]
Wed: no weight room; Track only work.
Heres Mo’s Meal schedule Mark
[ul]
[li]Breakfast-9 am, oatmeal, protein drink with fruit
[/li][li]AFter Weight room-12:30 pm protein drink
[/li][li]After Track-3 pm, protein drink
[/li][li]Dinner-6 pm, chicken breasts, veggies
[/li][li]Desert-Protein drink
[/li][li]before bed-10 pm, protein drink.
[/li][li]*Mo only eats 2 squares a day…ideal for sprinter, plus supplementing with plenty of protein.
[/li][/ul]
some good quotes from John Smith “…sprinters need a lot more muscle than long distance runners…the shorter the dash, the more muscular the runner needs to be…” Smith immediately started Greene in the weight room to add the needed muscle to carry him to the world class level. Maurice came to HSI at 155, and now weighs about 175. “…one of the primary purposes of weight training for sprinters is to train the nerveous system to produce power while still experiencing fatigue… more body strength, power and bodyweight is REQUIRED to propel the body forward and sustain the speed across the finish line…”
This article is one of the best on Greene that I have seen in a long time. great training pics and good 3-4 page article. I’ll get back to you on MJ’s if you want later on Mark. To much to go into on this message. Hope this helps…remember, dont follow this unless you’re in season. Use this routine on a 2 on-2 off split, or a mon, wed, fri weight room split for base strenght trainging. And do track work on tues, Thrus, and Sat. Or split it up by doing track work on upper body days. I can give you MY workout split if you like Mark. Mine is more suitable for me, but I’d be willing to go over it with you.
So…back to the original programming. What’s the heaviest the go % wise all season for power clean, squat, bench?
I haven’t had time to view all 40+ weeks but it seems like 225 for squats, 340’s 1/4 squats and cleans 220’s. First 9 weeks squats didn’t go over 215 and speed squats starts at 8 or 9.
Day 2
Rep Jerk (1-5) 2x5 @ 165
(1-3) 3x3 @ 179
Snatch 3x2 @ 206
Squats 1/4 2x8 @ 312
1x6 @ 322
1x5@ 332
Clean & Jerk (1-1) 3x3 @ 156
Bench 1x8 @ 193
1x8 @ 206
2x5 @ 220
Squats Deep 4x6 @ 220
Shit, all gpp and spp never went over 225 in the squats but it does say deep squats. I’m curious does all the ol’s and other lower body movements makes up for the lack of squat weight?
It seems like every time you hear about some pro sprinter’s weight program it it is like this. Lighter than you may think but their strength is still very good.
Dude…Asafa and Bolt have starts as good as BJ, Mo, Dwain etc. I know all the talk about harder tracks yada yada, bottom line is the times are typically the same or better.
WTF are you talking about lazy in the gym?
Sure sometimes these guys don’t feel like busting their ass in the gym.
Just maybe the weights follow the speed and they have learned to self regulate their capacity.
Once I get more time, I will break down the workouts a little more. Don’t know what to think about the workouts 2x10 on cleans??
Yeah you don’t hardly see that in old school workouts.
We all talk about how poor D1 football SC training is, what about lsu workouts - is it the athletes or workouts?
LSU BODY BUILDING TRAINING - SPRINTS/HURDLES
Instructions: 30 continuous repetitions with light weight in approximately 40 seconds
Set your beeper watch on 40 seconds for exercise / 20 seconds for rest
These circuits are very similar to what we have seen but with slightly different movements etc.
If you take 44 steps in 100m would it be more appropriate to work to max strength for 22 steps/reps per leg.