Does anyone know about Rod Cole? He seems to have a pretty good program. They use safety bar squats for some reason and are putting up crazy numbers like 900 lbs. Anyway, I found this link which has one of his strength clinics. I got a little out of it. Thoughts?
http://www.k-statefootball.k-state.edu/football/departments/strength/clinic_tape.php
I’ll tell you why we haven’t heard about him: Because he’s got a strength coach “cocktail” going on. Hey, just because his head looks like a bullet, that don’t make him a big shot!!
Dell Dell…see no secrets…any opinions on the speed training (technique) philosophy?
That’s total b.s. no mention of applying more force during ground contact, applying force in less time, etc., etc. I could have a conversation with the guy without punching him, but then I would be reminded of what strength coaches like him have done to the profession over the last 20 years and I’d have to deck him anyway. These guys get to dictate what their athletes do for 4 years normally and still can’t plan their training appropriately. No secrets, but how about some common sense!!
He trains football players, not sprinters. Teaching these guys how to catch a ball consistently, run the plays, and keep from getting injured is far more valuable than shaving .05s off a guy’s 40. Training economy dude.
lol. I agree speed kills.JK.
hahaha, speedkills just killing him. I pretty much ignored what he was talking about running drills. Seemed like BS to me. I was more interested in the lifting portion of this.
At least his cocktail doesn’t employ HIT and sitting your ass on a nautilus pumping out 10 reps to failure. His lifting ideas didn’t seem that bad to me.
Am I off?
According to some articles injuries are down and lift #'s have been up each year. Seems like what a strength coach should be doing. Prevent injuries and get players physically ready.
I just got to the part where he talks about ultimate frisby.lol.
Good try, Narc, but I am not a sprint coach. Those are some basic principles and no, his job is not to teach them to catch balls consistently (as a matter of fact, they can’t even use footballs in off-season workouts, let alone teach them to catch them!!). He isn’t hurting people and they’ve performed well, so no, he’s not bad. And what was the deal with that air pillow and ankle stability? A little off there on the stabilization aspect, but he’s headed in the right direction (give him another 20 years!!). Training ankle stability like that would be like teaching someone to fire a cannon out of a canoe!! I was half-kidding about Rod, I’m sure he just knows all those lonely high school coaches love seeing the “fun” stuff they do. But he really doesn’t have a clue on “sprint” training. I learned about stride-length and frequency in 6th grade from Tom Shaw and I learned the rest of his weight training program in 7th!! 
Training economy my arse!! And as long as it ain’t HIT he’s doin’ something right!! Did you notice how he started that analogy about rabbits and then proceeded to ignore what he was saying. Did he mention that just to say he was in Russia and to say, “well, they don’t know bill snyder!” How is it that bill snyder knows anything about what’s best for their strength program? That’s why I enjoy the private sector, I don’t have to deal with head coaches trying to tell me their feelings on “strength training”!! I couldn’t imagine. delldell, I’m gonna start paying you to research the country’s strength coaches for me and use it all for cannon fodder!! INCOMING!!
It’s actually a Chinese proverb.
Anyway, you don’t think you can train multiple qualities at once like conjugate style? From previous talks I though you sort of used a modified linear style with focus shifting but multiple qualities trained.
Can you believe the Pitt head coach tried taking over for Buddy Morris (now w/ Cleveland Browns). Some coaches think players need to have a good mile time to be in good shape.
People are getting excited at Texas because old Dick Tomey is making players throw up. yeah, big deal. I could do that. He’s a d-line coach, not S&C, but took over for your favorite mad dog.
We do but not quite to the extreme he’s taking. With football athletes, our qualities aren’t so much entirely different but are packaged in a different way. For instance we don’t do all-out sprint training the same day we do our acceleration/deceleration drills and the same for our weight training. We’ve had more success training different qualities, but rarely in the same workout. If we do, it’s typically to teach someone a lesson :mad: for telling me, “but jeff madden told us to: insert moronic statement about s&c here…”!! We don’t do “metabolic” dumbbell complexes as a warm-up for heavy o-lifts or squats!
Texas fans are crazy!! ‘Nuff Said!! But you’re right, it’s better than Mad Dog!! Yeah, I remember a strength coach telling me that he had one of his football players running 5 & 10K’s in the winter time to get him ready for track and to build an endurance “base” so he doesn’t get tired at the end of his race (the freakin’ 400!!)!!
The dynamic flexibility program…what do people think about scorpions?
Clemson can you read this post?
dr.sprint
I’ve never heard of them.
So what qualities do you train?
I keep hearing conflicting info about training vs. not training maximal and dynamic strength together. Dave Tate at Westside says don’t do it. Poliquin says don’t do it. Kenn at ASU does it but not with the same body parts (i.e. ME upper, DE lower). CT does it w/ his pendulum powerlifting. David W on this site says you have to if you’re training oly lifters. Supposedly the reasoning is you’re confusing the nervous system.
I like the general outline Coach Reeves at Wake Forest has w/ 3x whole body programs that start out with an oly/dynamic movement, then a variation of squat, hip extension, and push+pull. But if you don’t believe in combining trained qualities, you’d have to shift towards the more traditional 2x explosive, 2x strength split. I’d prefer 3x whole body splits, so I can be on the court more.
I’ve had a football player using Kenn’s system. It is working well. I like it cuz it fits with three low volume speed/agility sessions well giving the CNS a break in between. He’s getting stronger and faster every week. So I think you can train different qualities together. I also used the tier system for a few weeks and liked it. Personally I’m more of a strength person so I like the WSB model better for max strength(no longer being a competitive athlete). Remember though, athletes are not powerlifters.
I think that you’d have to try it. If it works for you use it. From my experience It can be done.
Guess not. Every white guys does run funny by the way. They use to say I ran like a rooster and my friend ran like a penguin. I swear this is helping my training though. I remember reading that ben stayed alone for 48 hours prior to setting the world record. I think in the article he explained it something like this… every action wastes energy I wanted to be alone so I would be able to use all my energy for the race. Explode like a china doll. Thats what im going to do. Live the life of a hermit then run races. Oneday Im going to inherit millions of dollars, imagine I could actually live my dream. Honestly im not hyped. Maybe ill just give it all away. Anyways back to my hole.
delldell, for example training endurance may be made up of several different factors (what phase of the year we’re in: off-season, in-season, pre-comp., etc., etc.). We may train endurance in a week as power-endurance, strength-endurance, endurance-strength, hypertrophy-endurance, endurance-hypertrophy, muscular-endurance-short, m-e-long, m-e-medium, etc., etc.
101- I’m trying the tier system right now. It’s okay but I don’t really like how it’s organized. A little too much volume and I didn’t like the idea at all of doing oly lifts in the middle of the workout. I’ve created a new split which I think will work much better for my next block.
speedkills-endurance…come on, talk about strength and power. I’m primarily interested in off-season. In-season is usually maintenance. Shouldn’t endurance be built outside of the weight room anyway?
Not always. It depends on what type of endurance (strength-endurance, power-endurance, etc.). For example, strength endurance could be developed by training something like 8 sets of 6-8 repetitions, instead of standard high-repetition methods.