Is anyone thinking of going to this conference?

I have never seen Seagraves use a short warm up.

People consider 45 minutes long. I would consider more normal than anything else. My competition warm up took 45 minutes at its shortest to 70 minutes at its longest. The difference relates more to how I was feeling on the day and the weather as the initial general (low intensity) warm up was to ensure the body aches and pains reduced before moving forward.

The hack threshold is 12.50 FAT(according to me) so if you’re faster than that you’re just a master!
:slight_smile:

did he say if any of the runs were downhill

I can’t say I saw him use it but I was handed a bit of paper by a coach in the know, I was told it was the Seagrave dynamic warm up. From memory it was a 10 minute flat out up and down warm up. I screwed it up and put it in a bin, I never used it.

Thanks Sady. I have somewhere warm ups of Seagraves. Might see if I can fish them out.

I’m not sure of the uphill grade, but I’m hoping for the sake of the athletes that it was mild!

Interesting that a lot of what he says is also a lot of what Charlie said, simplicity, not getting cute with weights, not overanalyzing, stepping down, etc.

Did he mention those things that you noted as bullshit as being fads?

He didn’t call them bullshit, but he actively discouraged overemphasizing the importance of minor issues. Basically, he said to focus on getting people running right mechanically, then start trying to fine tune things.

He claimed that not that many people were doing the low heel recovery thing, and someone said “tons of Jamaicans are doing it,” and his response was, “Let them!”

Again, many were turned off by his old school approach, but they are missing the deeper truth in my opinion.

For the record, I didn’t mean to say that heel recovery etc. is bullshit, just that in the grand scheme isn’t a huge deal and comes down to one’s preferred approach. My coach down south got me doing low heel recovery this summer (without every saying “drag your toe”) and I definitely like it a lot. It helped me keep things on the front side instead of flailing my legs out the back after 50m.

I got you. Well the old school approach, like the Jamaicans do, is kicking the worlds ass and has for awhile.

John Smith’s plan is almost identical to Tellez. He only doesn’t do the long runs at the start of the year opting to break it into 200 and 300 but multiple sets.

Lance Brauman’s plan is setup very similarly to Tellez and Smith.

The Jamaicans training has been described to me by a very highly respected, world renown coach who knows what they do as, “basic and old school”.

I think a huge part of the Jamaican success is the principle of anti-selection. Sound familiar anyone? :slight_smile:

Its already catching on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9WGI4Bkdo&feature=fvw

Its already catching on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9WGI4Bkdo&feature=fvw

How can anyone with any common sense do something so stupid.

You are so “old school”… This is Specific Functional Training.

haha… specific to not being very bright. A PT could make a fortune marketing to those folks, injuries abound.

Specifically for idiots, lol.

If you are therapist as well you can make a lot of money out of this program.

Yep, that was plain stupid!

Wow! That’s a safe and functional exercise! Let me copy that one right away…

tellez had smith working under him as an assistant track coach in ucla before tom moved to UH and thats why JS still uses toms methods but modified a little