I think a good coach does require scientific understanding of all the training + overall knowledge of coaching a sprinter.
However we see in school there is a section of one’s mark for knowledge/understanding which is what I said above, then a part for application. You need to be able to apply what you know, and studying wont teach you how to do it in real life very well.
When you become a teacher they require real world experience. Three people applied at one of the schools I was looking at. One went to Harvard, swam on the swim team, and was a former student of that high school. Another was class president in hs, class president of his college, and a former student as well. Another was a 40 year old guy with 20 years experience. Who did the school system select? The Harvard girl (she was hot too)…nope. The former class president of that high school…nope. They picked the 40 year old guy who had been teaching for 20 years…why (as your parents probably tell you) once your in the real world/working world it means nothing. Same thing should be applied to track. John Smith is by no means a giant intellect, but for track, in my opinion, he certainly is. You don’t need to be a biology major to coach track. Even Clyde Hart said a lot of the stuff he does…doesn’t make scientific sense. Would anyone argue against this fact though, he is probably one the greatest 400m coaches ever to live. I’ll take the guy who isn’t as smart and knows how to apply what he is doing on the track any day over some sprint geek nerd who can recite all the ways to train a sprinter then has no idea what is going on when they’re out on the track. Sorry, now thats real. Take it anyway you like.
You’ll see.
LOL, you should have left that post Rupert that was funny. I really am the devil. I have a cape, and pitchfork, you just can’t see it. BTW in the user cp it says I have 525 rep points. There has to be one “beacon of light”…mind as well be me. I’m just saying what people want to say but are too scared to say.
B’s.
Having all these bad coaches, I see where you get your practical knowledge from.
My coach (when I trained unat.) in college was a Division One…100m All-American, and used a trash can to hold his blocks, training himself (alone) to All-American status.
My prep school coach (post graduate) was terrible.
My high school coach has the MOST WINS EVER for any high school coach with a RECORD 30+ year undefeated winning streak. And was “National Coach of the Year” numerous times. Featured on Disney channel and was nominated “teacher of the year.”
I worked with the “National Coach of the Year” in Virginia as well.
I’m tired, thats all I can think of right now.
Go run your 11.2. At least I can say I run under 11.00. Mr.Big Mouth.
Oh yeah. The distance coach at VCU was on a world record 4x800 team.
I go deeper with athletes though. Then we are talking about a serious list.
Do these people have names?
Yeah do a search you can find them all. Have been even listening to anything I have been saying over the years. Why do I have to keep listing these people, I’m not gonna do that anymore.
So the answer is no, thats all I needed and suspected.
FINE
Mustapha Jinadu
Hal Croft
Jim Holden.
BAM.
I found a post where I actually mentioned it to you (previously). Do you want to see that as well.
Doc,
Other than to let you know that I’m the wrong side of 30, I dont believe that anything I can offer would help you here. Lets just say I am old enough that prostate concerns keep me out of most pissing contests.
My take on the age question:
Dont get in a forum thread debate with anyone under 40 (used to be …anyone over 40) My 6 mo. old had an opinion last night at 2am, 2:30, 3am, 3:30am, and 4am before he stopped voicing it. Trust me, he wasnt concerned with anyone discounting it due to his age…
Sorry to hear that you dont like me. But more sorry that you arent joining a very exclusive group!
I dont dislike you. But then I dont know you do I?
My posts are written well enough. Agree, disagree, slam me for my mystery age, do what you will…
One question, did you get a cut rate membership for this CDN based website by subscribing to the French Canadian version? (your, repost in English comment)
I just got back from a few hours of coaching, cooking up some dinner, watching some hoops on TV and now I am down to you.
Girls I coached have won many state meets, including one who won 100, 200, 400 two years in a row. Does this make me a great coach? Of course not, fool. It makes them great runners.
Just curious, what size classification are you talking about in Massachusetts and what, exactly, was your role on this team? You seem to be attaching yourself to your HS’s success without saying what you did to achieve it. And what is with “we were set to win…?” If we’re goin’ there, a team I coached was “set to break” a world age-group record.
But I do love your posts. And your ego. I hope you get the coaching job you’re hoping for someday. And I hope you make a great success of it.
And I am glad you broke 11.00.
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Some schools choose illogically even when presented with a master coach applicant. cough, cough Penn State. Situations like these hurt both the qualified coach and the potential athletes. Push away a dedicated coach, hire a scrub who pushes away the dedicated athletes…round and round we go.
Yep. And there are many great coaches being pushed away from the sport with a sour taste in their mouth by this b.s. of schools hiring and keeping far less qualified candidates.
How do you define far less qualified? Is it the speed of their athletes, experience, their certifications or what?
You defend some of these very coaches you are now questioning, which is why I ask.
See Alford-Sullivan v. Huntington.
Again, my original opinion: if a great coach is not available then a “far less qualified” coach is still better than no coach for young athletes.
Mort,
There’s more to that Penn State job…
The AD took great pleasure in replacing HG, the card carrying sexist & pain in the AD’s arse. Pleasure came from replacing him with a woman which to his mind was creative genius and poetic justice.
Also, two head coaches into one saves $$$ for JoPa’s boys…
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Mr. 6.38 ran over 2 tenths slower and 6.41 ran .16 slower than they did just a week ago, getting last and second to last respectively and being blown out. Sadly, both of those times were season bests and I believe personal bests as well, if you discount the bullshit last week. Just were real big PRs I guess.