High CNS or Low CNS

I’m currently in Pre-xmas training for aussie rules and our weekly set up is basically 2 days per week of team sport games like soccer, touch footy, basketball etc which go for about 45mins. There is alot of sprinting involved but I wouldn’t say it’s 100% but I do pull up pretty sore from it. I’m trying to organise my week and trying to follow the CF set up, while including tempo stuff and weights etc.
Do you guys think this would be a High CNS workout?

what sort of % would you say?
and what about recovery between them?

Good to see you here bud, you still in 'berra or moved yet?

If you want to get quality speed sessions in, I’d recommend you do them before the soccer or basketball games on the same day. This way you’ll have tonnes of time for recovery and you can use those days as high cns stress days.

Watch the quantity of sprinting though - might be overkill.

Yep still in the same place, work is going real well.
Most of the time the % would be about 70-80% but on occassion you would do a max effort sprint if you no what I mean.

Here is what I think I will do:
M - off
T - am weights
pm games
W - tempo & gpp
TH - am weights
pm games
F - Tempo & gpp
Sa - am weights
pm sprints 100% effort
Su - off.

I’ve changed my set up to allow for more speed stuff. Here goes:

M – am Weights
Pm sprints/gpp
T - pm Games

W - Weights

Th - Games

Fr - am Weights
Pm Sprints/gpp
Sa/Su OFF recovery

You’ve placed more “speed stuff”, but I am not sure you’ll have optimal speed development, too! At least one tempo on Wed, if not one more during the weekend, too!
Also, not sure about Fri’s session after a game; have some rest/tempo and do it on Saturday, if you can.
Hope it helps!

PS if by “games” you mean intensive workouts, there is no way you’ll survive 5 hard sessions per week… Not for long anyway.

below is from Kelly Baggett on Hi/Low training

Q: Do you recommend the hi-low method of combining training where a person always rests 48 hours between bouts of high intensity training (weights, maximum speed, plyometric work etc.)?

It’s an excellent way to organize training. As I’ll explain in a minute, I feel it’s particularly effective the more lifting an athlete does. This makes it particularly effective for bodybuilders, powerlifters and the like. Having said that, I feel when taken as gospel it’s a bit restrictive and could use some clarification. Here’s how I would adjust it. First lets give a few examples as to what constitutes “high intensity” and “low intensity” respectively.

High Intensity

  1. strength work (anything above 80% +of 1rm for lower body and “whole body” movements such as deadlifts, cleans etc.)
  2. maximum effort bodybuilding work (mainly lower body)
  3. maximum speed work with full recovery between reps
  4. maximum effort plyometric work
  5. maximum effort agility and deceleration work
  6. maximum effort conditioning work (ie. Timed max effort intervals)
  7. martial arts or boxing fighting, sparring, or heavy bag
  8. any activity performed with heightened and competitive emotional intensity (competitions)
  9. any activity performed under the influence of artificial stimulants
    (ephedrine, various energizing supplements) 11. for advanced athletes - any activity involving PR type performances

Low intensity

  1. aerobic work
  2. submaximal conditioning work
  3. dynamic warmups
  4. submaximal bodybuilding or upper body isolation bodybuilding work
  5. submaximal speed work
  6. easy plyometric work (basic unilateral and bilateral hops etc.)
  7. footwork drills
  8. jump rope
  9. martial arts or boxing kata, mitt work, or shadowboxing

The basic rule is that high intensity activities deplete the central nervous system. Obviously, muscles can become fatigued locally from activity, yet central fatigue affects your entire human organism. That’s why a particularly grueling bout of exercise restricted to one area of your body can leave you performing less then adequately in other parts of your body the next day. It’s also why activities performed with heightened mental and emotional intensity, such as a few seconds of activity at a track meet or a PR performance in the weight room, can sometimes leave a person fatigued for days.

The CNS - Your Powerplant

Think of your “central” nervous system just like a central powerplant for an entire city. The CNS is your powerplant and it resides in the middle. The job of a powerplant is to provide electricity to the entire city that it controls. Without enough electricity the city can’t operate efficiently. Now, think of your external musculature as the city. Your central powerplant has to provide the electricity for your muscles and there’s only has so much available energy. Every time you perform high intensity activities you use up available electricity from your powerplant. Since you don’t have the option of buying a bigger powerplant, you have to organize your training in such a way that your powerplant does not become overextended. Anytime you stress the capacity of your powerplant via engaging in high intensity training, you stress the powerplant and have to let it build back it’s energy reserves.

Your Powerplant Needs Time To Recharge

Now, it takes your central nervous system approximately 48 hours to recover from those high intensity activities. The basic tenet is that to foster consistent performance and recovery, high intensity activities should be placed on the same days with other high intensity activites and those “high intensity days” should be alternated with “low intensity” days.

Therefore, in a weekly schedule you might have strength work, plyometrics, and maximum speed work placed on mon, wed, and friday while aerobic and conditioning work would be placed on tuesday thursday.

OK, my personal feeling is that abiding 100% by this rule is much more important when the high intensity elements provoke muscle injury. What is muscle injury? Nothing more then protein breakdown caused by eccentric contractions. What mainly stimulates it? Strength and bodybuilding work. That doesn’t mean the other high intensity elements such as sprinting, plyometrics, and agility work can’t stimulate muscle injury because they can, particularly when really pushing it to the maximum or setting PRs - this is particularly true the more advanced the athlete is, which is why more advanced athletes get more out of this type of setup then beginners. For example, agility and deceleration work are known as 2 of the elements that “beat people up” the most. Yet it should be no surprise that this (muscle injury) occurs more with weight training when one of the basic goals of most weight training is muscle breakdown. when a muscle is injured (damaged), inflammatory messengers are stimulated which spread and dock in areas throughout the body including the brain and really promote the systemic fatigue and prolonged recovery time that most people refer to when they talk about “CNS” fatigue. Muscle injury to the human CNS is kind’ve like a tree falling on a power line - It causes transformers to blow out and a city’s power supply is disrupted.

So, in my opinion the main point to pay attention to when organizing your training is to make sure you always follow up high demanding “muscle injury” type days with a lower intensity day. Most people can tolerate multiple consecutive days of “high intensity” activities so long as they pay attention to the stress induced in those sessions and hard weight training days are followed by easier days. Therefore, provided you pay attention to the level of emotional intensity you perform under, and phsyical stress (soreness) generated by your non weight training high intensity elements, it’s normally Ok to perform plyometrics one day and sprinting the next, maximum speed one day and lift the next, or linear speed and plyo one day and agility the next, -or any combination thereof. But as soon as you throw lifting and strength work into the equation everything needs to be looked at a little more closely. If you have a hard lifting session one day and try to sprint or do anything else high intensity the next, don’t expect to be very successful at it simply because that lifting is probably going to provoke more muscle injury.

I hope that makes sense.

What would be an example of submaximal conditioning work? Does this mean stuff like tempo runs? Wouldn’t tempos be classified under aerobic work?

Niko - thanks mate. The games are not 100% effort but as I said before “Most of the time the % would be about 70-80% but on occassion you would do a max effort sprint if you no what I mean.” They are things like touch footy, soccer etc and go for about 45mins in total.
I could add some tempo on Wed and Fri but I thought they would be High CNS days. Maybe I should go back to my first weekly setup?

Thanks for that John, that’s Gold.
I think I should go back to my first weekly setup:
M - off
T - am weights
pm games
W - tempo & gpp
TH - am weights
pm games
F - Tempo & gpp
Sa - am weights
pm sprints 100% effort
Su - off.
This way I can put more effort into the weights and Game stuff(sprinting) and use the tempo/gpp for recovery. This also means I will only have 1 sprint session per week. What does everyone think?

I prefer the first one, yes! It’s a more clear low/high approach. At least give this a try first and see how it goes…