Heatwave13's coming back to the track.....

I just fooled around with some weights yesterday and today. Deadlifts, military presses, grip work, etc. I’m getting ready to start my new weights program on Monday that will allow me destroy my max lifts by this spring. My paltry 425 deadlift max will be crushed. Same with my 190 lb. military press. I may decide to go for a new squat max as well, all while keeping my bodyweight at a constant, hard, 175 lbs.

I also dinked around with some standing long jumps today and it wasn’t pretty. My previous best is 10 feet, 2 inches back last spring, and today I was stuck around 9 feet 4 inches. I just wasn’t up for the task today, at least for that.

My left knee still hurts like a mo-fo, so I’ll monitor it very closely as I begin to add some long jump preparation into the mix. Unfortunately, that’s the same knee I jump off of, so if I’m ever going to beat my PR, I’ll have to get that fixed, won’t I?

Thank you for reading and for your continued support of my weight training and running.

425 deadlift at 175 lbs. bodyweight paltry? I don’t know about that… That’s pretty bad ass if you ask me… You’re very strong for your bodyweight it looks like. Keep it up, Heatwave!

Well, Mr. Cortese, thank you, I guess my perspective is a little bit warped. In everyday circles, a 400+ lbs. deadlift may seem good, but in my world–the power lifting/olympic lifting world–it’s not really any thing to write home about. I use specific lifting schemes that help me to work on staying as strong as possible while not gaining any weight. At one point I used these methods and squatted 405 lbs. at 160 lbs. bodyweight. I’m trying to maintain that strength/power to bodyweight ratio that everyone talks about. My bodyweight just ebbs/flows with my diet or lack thereof. I’m a very inconsistent eater.

Now, if I could just somehow get that to carry over to lowering my sprint times…that is if my knee will let me.

Hey Heatwave, just curious, what are your goals for 2006? In terms of sprinting and powerlifting meets/performance?

Daniel C, that is a great question and one that I need to nail down soon, so that I can have some focus.

One problem I am facing, at least for sprinting, is my left knee. For long jump, I jump off this same left knee. It hurts like a bastard when I do sprint reps at the track, but, ironically, it does NOT hurt when I lift. It goes back to when I snapped that cartilidge behind and below the knee cap. This effects mobility and leg turnover rate in that left leg. I’m fighting through this and will continue to train. If you’ve read from my last few journal entries, you’ll see that I’ve been really frustrated with my 100m reps, although I’m not running with an all out effort.

I’m probably not training properly, as a really focused track athlete should, with my full time job, kids, responsibilities, etc. Also, I don’t know that my weight training regimen goes hand in hand with sprint work. But, I’ve loved to lift heavy since I was teen ager and I just can’t let it go. Some have told me to not lift so much, but I just can’t stay away. I want both to be fast and strong, so I’ll try to make the most of both.

I would like to enter a few masters/open meets in the summer of 2006–maybe the 100m and long jump. God only knows how fast or slow I would be. I’m sure I would do much better in an actual race with real people running against me as opposed to running/training alone. Sometimes my wife will go out to the track with me, but she isn’t any competition, she just does intervals–run straightaways, jog/walk the bends; and with weights she lifts at a gym with her sister while I have my own olympic bumper plates at home.

I don’t really know what sort of goal to set for myself yet for the 100m/long jump. It’s been sooooo long ago that I’ve competed and I’m not crazy enough to believe that I’ll beat my PR this season. How about 11.xx in the 100m and 21 feet long jump to start with?

For weight lifting, I would love to deadlift 500 lbs. by this time next year, power clean 225 lbs. and be able to military press 200 lbs. Also, don’t forget, I also want to close the Captains of Crush #3 gripper (which I believe is 280 lbs. of grip pressure). I probably won’t compete in powerlifting meets because of two things–benchpress, which I don’t do because of my shoulder injury and the goofy squat suits and bench shirts that you have to wear that enable you to lift a lot more weight=false poundages.

If I can be consistent with training, I’ll make some inroads with my central nervous system this year, but it may be 2007 before I realize my goals. Trying to un-do 15 years of no sprinting is tough, but I’m making a dent in it already. I didn’t get in this condition overnight and I won’t become an efficient 100m runner overnight either. Patience.

On a side note, I downloaded that Jonathan Edwards training article from that thread in the long jump section of this board and I’ll probably borrow some ideas from that.

**These goals are subject to change depending on circumstances :slight_smile:

Hey you are 175pounds solid, great power to weght ratio so, i think your weight training goes hand in hand with sprinting.

Am 160pounds 5"11, i see my ultimate sprinting weight at 175pounds, hopefully i can get there, functional muscle.

Can you post what your weight training, lifts, sets, reps, exercisors.

I would like to know.

Dumbell snatches.

I wish I could get that power/weight ratio to carry over to my sprints. The explosiveness, stength, and high vertical jump are not manifesting themselves on the track–at least not yet. Most of my training ideas were learned when I competed in olympic lifting with a very good coach who has trained with some of our olympians and top collegiate football programs.

I lift in much the same way as in that weight training thread we just posted in. Very heavy weights, low reps, just a few sets, plenty of rest between sets, and a few basic total body exercises. I usually lift four days per week, but, sometimes, when I’m in the garage working on something, I’ll walk on over to the bar, thrown on some plates, and put up a couple of reps with overhead squats, overhead press, etc. just to get the blood flowing.

On most normal days, I’ll do 3 sets of 3 reps with deadlifts, overhead presses, overhead squats, cleans, and snatch. Sometimes, I’ll go on a six week binge and switch out squats in place of deadlifts.

–heavy–minimum of 80% max. Usually 80-90% max.
–No more than 3 or 4 sets
–Low reps. Always 5 reps or less
–Plenty of rest between sets --up to 5 minutes
–Avoid getting pumped up with lactic acid. It works much the same way as when you run a hard 100m sprint, then you try to run another with only 1 minute rest–it’s hard isn’t it? You feel the burn of lactic acid and the quality suffers. But, when you wait 5 minutes, THEN, run another one, you’ll have a more quality sprint, won’t you?

–Sometimes, I’ll spread the training through out the day, if I’m home. For example, saturday will be “power clean” day. I’ll set a goal to do several sets of three throughout the day. When ever I’m near my weights, I’ll go over and do three reps, then go about my business–watching my boys, watching the ball game on tv, doing laundry, whatever. Then, when I get a break, I’ll go out to the garage and knock off another set or two. My body gets in the habit of putting up heavy weights without getting tired.

I also train my grip very hard and I can close the Captains of Crush #2 gripper (200 pounds of pressure). I’m working on the #3 right now.

Too bad so many athletes waste time with bodybuilding and “body shaping” moves that don’t do crap for their performance. Please, avoid these isolation exercises with baby weights and focus instead on the big lifts that work lots more muscle. Tricep kickbacks, multiple kinds of bicep movements, leg extension machine, leg curl machine—forget it. If you want to get your hamstrings strong do some deadlifts, power cleans, or RDL’s. Trust me, do plenty of heavy squats and deadlifts and you will get strong all over.

—Finally, one more important principle. The hyperirradiation principle. Bring more muscles into play. Squeeze the barbell very hard on all exercises and flex your abs and glutes on all lifts!! Keep your body tight during the entire movement. Try this simple test–shake hands with someone, ask them to squeeze hard. Now, ask them, while they’re squeezing your hand, to consciously flex their abs, flex their biceps. Did the squeeze intensify?

Congratulations Texas Longhorns–2005 NCAA champions.

haha. sooo true. i gained about 8lbs by doing the bodybuilding method; but it definitely wasn’t functional mass! your workout journal is definitely motivating me to workout harder and smarter for once. good luck to you and your training this new year.

Hey, I’m glad you enjoyed it and maybe you can learn from some of my mistakes and/or successes. I just try to plug along, learn as I go, and do the best I can.

some good posts there heatwave.
Im a bit unsure about the idea of banging out a set whenever you pass the bar. This means you are not warmed up properly and asking for injuries. Anytime i PC without proper warmup, i tweak something. If i was you id re think this part.

Your weights work is much the same as mine except i never train deadlifts. It fries me up big time, lower back and cns. Just not worth it. I totally agree with the low reps high weights big recovery scheme. With PC you need to good technique just as in sprinting. Form goes out the window after 2-3 reps as a decent weight so its important to rest up enough.

For about 6 months i was a BB obsessed lifter. biceps , triceps, fly’s etc. Got upto 190lbs of crap.I was very slow (still am) and relatively weak. Thank god im out of that now. The idea of training biceps now actually disgusts me even though i get in a lot of chin’s

I also agree with your notion of what is heavy and whats not. Its all relative. Just last year i would have thought lifting 100kg over your head in a c&j, a crazy weight but truth is its paltry for an 80kg athlete. My 16Xkg squat is by far the strongest of any of my friends / athlete peers but its still pretty weak. >200kg is where i need to be you know.

Anyway keep it up and get that knee looked at…

Hey heatwave, i just got my captains of crush grippers in the mail (as well as my isorobic exerciser!! i was like a child on xmas day all over again…)

I was just wondering if you could go through some of the techniques/training you use on the grippers?
so far i can close the number 1 gripper until the 2 handles are like a millimeter apart. cant seem to get them to touch though
i can only close the number 2 until they are about an inch apart :-((
obviously gonna take lots of work but i cant wait…

All right, cool, if you’re like me, those grippers will get lots of attention. I think it’s great that you’re taking on these things. You’ll develop a pair of powerful hands. Sooooo many folks who lift regularly neglect the grip!! They can put up some nice numbers on a few basic lifts but yet their grips are weak. To me and many other old school style weight trainers, grip strength is the litmus test of one’s real strength. I read that at one recent Bodybuilding show, one of the “Arnold Classics”, that many of the top bodybuilders that you see in those “muscle and fiction” glossy magazines, could not close the #2 captain of crush gripper.

I have some ideas on how to make progress with these things; ideas that personally worked for me…

First off, I would get very acquainted with the #1. Just work on it for a few weeks until you can slam it shut. Mix it in with your regular workouts, but don’t over do it. Later, I’ll post on how to position the gripper in your hands for maximum leverage, etc…it does make a difference.

What really helped me (once I could easily close the #1 for a few reps) was to get the #3 and alternate days with the #2. For example, on Monday I’ll take the #2 to work with me and at the top of every hour I’ll get it and do 2 or 3 reps–tensing my whole body and squeezing the piss out of it. I’ll do this all day at work then, at home, I’ll do my regular workouts, etc…On the next day I’ll take my #3 to work and do the same thing but, since I can’t close it, I have to do hard negatives. It helps me to force it shut by pressing the gripper on my hip or leg. Most folks recommend working with the gripper that you can currently close (or come very close) and the next highest one. For example, I worked with the #1 and #2, then when I could close the #2, I ordered the #3, etc.

I can now close the #2 anytime I want, but at first, it was soooo close that I would have to get my wife to see if the handles actually touched (fwiw–she was not impressed at all and she didn’t find me any more attractive when I finally shut it). Today, though, there is no doubt about it. I can feel the handles touching

So, you’ll probably have to experiment a bit with it. Some train like I do with just a few reps, while others have had success with higher rep work. I was never a “repper” where I sat there and did bunches of reps. I treat these crushes as I would my squats or overhead press meaning that I’ll do a few sets of 3 or 4 reps, squeezing it as hard as I can. I go hard on these about three times per week but I have to be careful because my regular workout also utilizes grip (deadlifts!!) and my hands can get very tired.

Here are a couple of web sites that will give you all the info you need on gripwork

http://www.gripboard.com/
You’ll have to register to participate on here

and…

John Wood’s site…http://www.functionalhandstrength.com/

cheers, that pretty much what i already do. i use number 1 and 2 @ work every hours or so. Its gonna be a LONG LONG road to number 3 though.
Hell its gonna be 6 months or more before i can comfortably close number 2…

Thanks

Oh, yeah, the #3 is a beast. I can shut about 70% of the way, then it just locks up on me. It says, “naw, you ain’t getting me down” everytime I try it. It’s going to a long road but it will be fun along the way.

I like to really try and stretch out my fingers to set the gripper, like I’m trying to lock my thumb pad into it, then I squeeze for all I have. You’ll see that the lower on the handles you grip, the easier it will be. Squeeze hard with the thumb pad and the last 3 fingers (middle, ring, and pinky).

If you check out those web sites I gave you, you can read about all sorts of folks who have closed these grippers and how they make progress on them.

Ok, it’s the early part of the new year and I said a while ago that, come the new year, I was a gonna start honing in on speed in an effort to channel my strength and explosive power. So, that’s exactly what I did today.

-Partly cloudy, nice, 64 degrees this afternoon, very light wind.

-I began with my weight training that incorporates some ideas from Barry Ross.

-Deadlifts, 3 sets of 3 with 80% max. Five minutes rest between sets to regenerate up to 90% of the ATP.

-Box jumps for height, up to 40 inches; these were done immediately after each deadlift set

-Overhead press–3 sets of 3 with 80% of max.
-Power cleans --2 sets of 3

-No fatigue, no burn, no pump, no lactic acid build up; all were very high quality reps.

Wait about 30 minutes, then head over to da track.

-warm up 500m or so.
-5 reps of 60m–very hard efforts; at least 90%. I put aside all my doubts and, with a concerted effort lined up and powered my way down the track as if the devil were on my heels.

-These reps were actually hand timed and I was very pleased with them (slightly inaccurate as they may be). In fact, I was pleasantly surprised. I know, I know, hand times ain’t worth a yankee dime, but I did it anyway, just to have an idea of where I’m at and to measure future progress against.

-I’m still a little unsure of how the overall program is going to work as far as number of days of this and number of days for that (tempo, speed days, weights)

*Thank you, everyone, for your support of my speed work. This is a learning process for me.

a few comments:

i always do my running training before weights. We’re sprinters not weightlifters. Weights are a means to an end. You dont want to go leaving your best in the gym…

I always do PC first as its technically harder so you need to be freshest.

Well done on the sprints but try to relax. powering your way to the line over 60m may be faster than relaxed sprinting but over 100m / 200m you’ll fry yourself and tighten up / chop off your strides.
Its not a skill easily mastered and i havent even come close to it yet but the odd occasion i do find the groove it feels like im flying faster and easier than i ever thought possible

Well done though…

Well, I sure do feel it today. After yesterday’s introductory speed session, running near all out, I can feel the pain in my posterior chain, from my back down to my ankles. My left knee hurts like a mutha also, but it’loosen up with plenty of motion.

–Another nice day down here, about 65 degrees and sunny, but very windy.

–I did some tempo runs–120m at about 65 70% effort.

–I may experiment a little bit with squats in place of my usual deadlifts for a while if I can get some of my questions answered.

–Jo, thanks for the advice, I will try to lift after my speed sessions and see how that feels compared to vice versa. I see your point about making sure my body gives its best effort for the track sessions.

Have a good one everybody…and stay out of trouble…

Today I made the change to squats. After one full year on the deadlift, I decided to switch it up for little bit and go with my old go-to olympic back squat. I also did some speed work today, ya know what I’m sayin?

–5 reps of 60m–about 90% effort. I ran hard.

–Power cleans–3 sets of 3 reps.
–Overhead military press–3 sets of three reps.
–Squats, deep, olympic style (not powerlifting style) 3 sets of 3 reps.

I was still sore from the previous two days, I honestly didn’t feel like working out, but then my woman started making fun of me. I told her I was really sore since beginning speed work and she says, “go tell someone who cares, stop being a little wuss.” Well, I went and worked through the soreness, forcing my body to adapt to the changes in workouts as I go from GPP over to more of a speed format.

BTW, she’ll be out of town on a business trip this weekend, I may have the house to myself…anyone want to come down and party :smiley: :smiley: ??

Haha, if I was in GA, I’d be there Heatwave. OPEN HOUSE AT HEATWAVES!! hahah… :smiley:

How’d the squats feel ?

WRCortese5 et. al,

The squats felt fine, but I had to go with a lighter weight than expected. I forgot to mention that immediately after each set of squats, I did some depth jumps. My form on the squats seemed fine as well; maybe that’s because I do a lot of overhead squats, which forces me to use good form and balance.

But, just like I’ve mentioned lately, my left knee hurts really bad after I’m done. It’s not a sharp pain, but more like an ache and a lack of mobility. There’s just not as much snap as in my right leg. Once I warm up and get loose, it feels fine during the actual workout, but then, later on after I’ve been sitting around for a while (or when I wake up in the morning) it feels like it’s locked into place, like I have to “un-hinge” it.