Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

[100m001]

@lkh

The official US record from USATF for Hannah’s age group is 11.35 by Angela Williams (born 1/30/1980, set on 7/28/1995).

Angela Williams won FOUR NCAA Championships in the 100m at USC and went on to win international medals. That’s what Hannah should be looking at. Hannah is larger, which likely hurts her is the start, but if she works on her start some (especially staying down longer in her drive phase) she may be able to get close. I think she will surpass Jodie Williams’ time at the same age (which I think is 11.56), but 11.35 for a female is a different world.

I use to train with Angela. Like Hannah, Angela was coached by her father (he’s a track coach for the youth) then when she got to high school and Collage she bounced around from USC coaches and Coach Ernie Gregoire who is the coach of SoCal Cheetahs track club.

At USC they have a big 12 ft pic of her in the hallway before you enter the coaches office.

The one thing I will say about Angela is that she is a all around developed athlete. Her father did a great job in insuring she did not burn out. Angela was sort of a clown and she always had a smile on her face, she seem to really enjoy what she was doing.

[rich121]

@lkh

The official US record from USATF for Hannah’s age group is 11.35 by Angela Williams (born 1/30/1980, set on 7/28/1995).

Angela Williams won FOUR NCAA Championships in the 100m at USC and went on to win international medals. That’s what Hannah should be looking at. Hannah is larger, which likely hurts her is the start, but if she works on her start some (especially staying down longer in her drive phase) she may be able to get close. I think she will surpass Jodie Williams’ time at the same age (which I think is 11.56), but 11.35 for a female is a different world.

Seattle Speed club compete in the National AAU track games, not the USATF (they do participate in the Regional USATF meet though, which is local)…the way it is scheduled, it is not realistic to do both, as either AAU or USATF will have their National meet, then the following day one ends the other will start…not making it reasonable to go from one to the other. I’m not even sure how feasible it would be with when registration has to be done I’m sure while the other meet in in progress.
Hannahs record is an AAU record.

Rick

[rich121]

@100m001

I use to train with Angela. Like Hannah, Angela was coached by her father (he’s a track coach for the youth) then when she got to high school and Collage she bounced around from USC coaches and Coach Ernie Gregoire who is the coach of SoCal Cheetahs track club.

At USC they have a big 12 ft pic of her in the hallway before you enter the coaches office.

The one thing I will say about Angela is that she is a all around developed athlete. Her father did a great job in insuring she did not burn out. Angela was sort of a clown and she always had a smile on her face, she seem to really enjoy what she was doing.

11.35 is an unbelievable feat at that age…what an athlete!

Rick

[lkh]

@rich121

11.35 is an unbelievable feat at that age…what an athlete!

Rick

The first woman to run under 11.0 IN HIGH SCHOOL.

She had a ridiculously quick start, which was her big advantage when she was younger, but perhaps it turned into a disadvantage as she matured, as she didn’t have the SE to go along with the start and world class competition tended to run her down from behind.

Physically, Angela looked like Shelly-Ann Fraser, and it would have been interesting to see the results with the same training.

[MiniMoE]

@speedcoach

have an opinion and we are versed in this arena, none of us truly know if it will hurt or help her. It’s all speculative at this point. I agree that those drops are likely not worth the risk, it isn’t our athlete to train. I see people get unreal results with very unconventional and counterintuitive methods. Hannah may go on to be an Olympic champion or she may not get much further. None of us know for sure. I say celebrate an exceptional athlete who is performing at a very high level. I kind of feel bad for Rich because any time someone posts something on Hannah, it brings so many negative comments. Lets say it is what it is. She is the fastest kid in her age group and has been for some time. Let us try to be positive and enjoy her ride. I like watching her videos because she is a joy to watch run.

I agree. She’s amazing (WOW). Hopefully, she keeps a strong head and stays health.

[100m001]

@lkh

The first woman to run under 11.0 IN HIGH SCHOOL.

She had a ridiculously quick start, which was her big advantage when she was younger, but perhaps it turned into a disadvantage as she matured, as she didn’t have the SE to go along with the start and world class competition tended to run her down from behind.

Yup, exactly.

Edit: I never seen Angela run more than 120 meters during practice (although she can run a good 400). Angela did block starts along with 30/40/60/80 meter sprints. The intensity looked to me to be around 80% in effort at times.

I was in the weight room with her as well. NOTHING spectacular at all, just general body building stuff.

[100m001]

@rich121

11.35 is an unbelievable feat at that age…what an athlete!

Rick

Sure, it’s a good time, but if you think about it, she was already running for a long time before her fantastic years running at Chino high school.

[AngelaCoon]

Rich
How quickly someone improves is not an indicator of long term proper development.
The easiest results will be gathered when the least experienced group trains. I am not trying to take anything away from this coach. I would like the discussion to continue and the questions asked by you as well.
Do you want to be faster now or continue to develop for the duration of your competitive years? ( yes some would say both )
Your logged results can not be disputed.
The method of short term gain versus long term development can be.
Just because you can ? Does this mean you should?

[rich121]

@Angela_Coon

Rich
How quickly someone improves is not an indicator of long term proper development.
The easiest results will be gathered when the least experienced group trains. I am not trying to take anything away from this coach. I would like the discussion to continue and the questions asked by you as well.
Do you want to be faster now or continue to develop for the duration of your competitive years? ( yes some would say both )
Your logged results can not be disputed.
The method of short term gain versus long term development can be.
Just because you can ? Does this mean you should?

Yes Angela, those are words of wisdom.

[rich121]

Hannah was only age 14 last year (birthdate in January). She was in the Youth class, not Intermediate, which you quoted the record for.

The record, which Hannahs time is faster than, for USATF Youth, from the USATF site:

“100m 11.73 seconds
Kendall Baisden
Motor City TC Greensboro, NC 2009-Jul-31”

Hannahs AAU record is 11.71 seconds

@lkh

The official US record from USATF for Hannah’s age group is 11.35 by Angela Williams (born 1/30/1980, set on 7/28/1995).

Angela Williams won FOUR NCAA Championships in the 100m at USC and went on to win international medals. That’s what Hannah should be looking at. Hannah is larger, which likely hurts her is the start, but if she works on her start some (especially staying down longer in her drive phase) she may be able to get close. I think she will surpass Jodie Williams’ time at the same age (which I think is 11.56), but 11.35 for a female is a different world.

[ESTI]

I saw Kendall run a few weeks ago. She ran a 60 in 7.63 FAT I believe, second fastest in Michigan right now. She is a tall, thin girl with a very relaxed stride. I was hand timing 30m and she came through in under 4.20 in her 7.63.

[rich121]

deleated as already posted…

[Stikki]

From what it sounds like training with a high school team (remember, she’s home schooled) didn’t work out, Cunliffe quit to focus on summer track, training with her high school team was “interfering” with that.

100 Meters
11.99a 1.2 I F Apr 9 Arcadia Invitational D…
12.25a V P Apr 16 Eason Invitational
12.16a V F Apr 16 Eason Invitational

200 Meters
24.71a .6 I F Apr 9 Arcadia Invitational D…
25.13a V P Apr 16 Eason Invitational
25.30a V F Apr 16 Eason Invitational

[rich121]

She started early this year, as she quit Fall swim team to run/train for Winter indoor track. Hope that early specializing and extreme training haven’t effected her running?
My daughter has been wondering what is up, as she exchanges facebook messages with her and follows her HS performance (what couple meets Hannah did do) I guess her account on Facebook has been offline or deleted for a couple weeks now.

[vedette]

I assume the weather at Arcadia was nice and warm. At the Eason, it was very cold and rainy, not a good day for sprinters.

[Stikki]

^^ Yeah, this season has been terrible, we’ve had one meet that was dry and over 55 degrees. Just horrible, but not unfair as everybody has had to deal with it.

Rich, I was hoping you had more info on Hannah. My sources are other coaches but nothing official from her club yet, she was removed from the Washington rankings on athletic.net a few weeks ago.

[rich121]

As I said, I don’t know anything, just what my daughter tells me through her conversations with Hannah and news.
I stopped communicating with Mike last Fall, and won’t again.

HS track is just as competitive as summer AAU track (Hannah does not have the fastest 100m time for the State this season) and I hope for Hannahs’ sake, that the “fun” hasn’t been diminished.

[X-Man]

was she doing the box jumps in spikes??? surely looks so !

[lkh]

@X-Man

was she doing the box jumps in spikes??? surely looks so !

You got that right, which is what scared the you-know-what out of some of us earlier. I know that Carl was a long jumper who sprinted . Any idea at what age he started serious plyos?

[X-Man]

@lkh

You got that right, which is what scared the you-know-what out of some of us earlier. I know that Carl was a long jumper who sprinted . Any idea at what age he started serious plyos?

i presume he started as soon as tellez got him to UH.