Grishchenkov's Gripe

:mad: THIS IS A WELL REASONED LETTER OF COMPLAINT WRITTEN TO THE PRESIDENT AND BOARD OF ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA BY AN OUTSTANDING AUSTRALIA-BASED FORMER RUSSIAN JUMPER AND NOW JUMPS COACH…kk

Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:33 AM
Subject: Information for President and Board Members

Dear Rob and Board Members
Some time has passed since our discussion and I purposefully didn’t send you my notes previously because the competition season had started and I wanted to see how the things I had implemented, or tried to implement, would work out.

Obviously, as a result of my pushing for change, my contract was terminated before time and without any explanation or warning.

Now the season is over and I want to give you my thoughts as it is time to contemplate our results and make judgements and analysis.

I have included the other board members in this email as I would like to give you information about the current state of athletics.

I have a feeling that the board members and yourself have a different picture from the words of Max Binnington and Danny Corcoran than people have at the ‘coal face’ in athletics.

There is a lot of unrest and dissatisfaction in the field.

It seems bureaucracy has overtaken results and if this situation does not change - you will have NO athletes and coaches within the system.

All will be operating outside of the system as the system does not support them at all.

It appears that the system exists for the system - not for those who are producing the results - athletes and coaches.

Everyone is saying that the ‘body of athletics’ is sick and once we recognise that we have a sickness, we need to find a treatment.

The major reason for this sickness from AA point of view is lack of money.

But from my point of view this lack of money is because of two reasons: 1) lack of result - sponsors and government don’t want to invest money in a sport that doesn’t produce a high level of results and 2) unwise spending - we should judge the effectiveness of money spent by the result produced.

It needs to be recognised that athletics is a professional business, not a hobby - if we accept this, we need to apply the economic rule or structure that applies to all businesses.

You as a successful business man know this very well – and I appeal to you not as a sportsperson but as a business person. If you don’t see value for money spent - you start asking ‘why?’ and what needs to change in order to create profit or result?

HP modern sport is not the same as it was 15-20 years ago - it has changed and the system MUST change with it. It is now a high technology, creative business with multi billion dollar budgets.

What was done 15 years ago will not produce high enough standards in world competitions today. A high level of sport requires a high level of professionalism.

So the next question is: What do we need to make our business successful/profitable? or What do we need to do in order to have results in our business??

The answer to this is four fold - to have results we need to have: 1) Talented athletes; 2) Experienced, creative coaches; 3) Good facilities; and 4) A good management structure.

Talented athletes: Australia has an abundance of talented young people - the climate, genetics, food and attitude of Australia and Australians are the best in the world for producing talented athletes.

You can see this clearly from statistics - Australian teams at Would Youth were ranked as 5th and 6th in the World during the period 2001-07.

In two years time when athletes became Junior, the Australian team ranks, not so consistently: 2006- 16th, 2004-6th, 2002-15th, 2000-8th.

When we get to senior ranking, the Australian team ranks: 2005-29th; 2003-21st, 2001-20th.

Why do athletes from other countries improve their results as they get older and Australian athletes not??? Why does this talent disappear and where does it go?

Athletics is not like swimming where an athlete can achieve maximum performance between 16-20 years of age.

Maximum performance in athletics is between 22 and 27, although now athletes can continue their sport until late 20’s and over 30. (This is because the skill level and experience of high competition requires maturity and physical condition can be held at the same level during this period).

What an advantage this can give us - a minimum 10-15 year career span of successful athletes?

But one reason why Australian athletes finish their sport’s career after junior level is because of a minimal amount of support.

Current HP sport requires professionalism and dedication so how does AA expect an athlete to exist after they leave school and parent’s home - what reward system is currently in place that can inspire an athlete to continue???

Pride to represent your country in a international competition - yes, great motivation but does it pay the bills?

As a result of this lack of support many of the best in Australia at junior level, leave Australia to go to the USA -where they can get sponsorship at universities - why can we not create a similar system in Australia? Whose responsibility is it to deal with this?

The Junior program is very dear to me as I was a major instigator of it 5 years ago and I see it as a solution to the future of athletics.

The junior program is created to select the potentially best junior and youth and help them to move into the senior sport arena (who potentially will be at the Olympic Games 2012).

For this program there is allocated an amount of money. In theory the idea is good. But in practise, support from this program to the athlete is restricted to an invitation 2 times in the year for a camp for 2-3 days - this is pleasurable for the athletes but is not the most effective way of achieving a result.

Money is spent for this education camp but athletes have to pay their own money to get to the national championship and compete for national title. This is just one area of unwise spending.

To give you an example of lack of result - two year ago, 72 potential athletes were selected (selected by a results /ranking from computer)for this squad.

I immediately spoke to Sarah Mulkearns to give her my professional opinion about the exclusion of some athletes who, while not in the top ranking, had huge potential and the inclusion of others that had top ranking but really no potential.

She told me that there was nothing she could do and nothing was done.

From these 72 selected only 15 remain - at this ratio, these athletes may have continued without the program.

Is this a good result and effective use of money?

In some events at the National Championships U 23 only 2-3 athletes compete - from this pool we need to select those athletes who will compete for Australia in international events - we need 10-15 to select from, not 2-3. How can we change this trend?

A good material base - facilities:

Australian facilities are some of the best in the world in general. This certainly is not the problem.

In Melbourne, e.g. there are 15 (probably more) stadiums with synthetic surfaces. To compare with St Petersburg, e.g. there are only 4 outdoor facilities and 2 indoor facilities.

Coaches, who can help an athlete realise their maximum potential:

There are many coaches who have not sufficient training or expertise to take an athlete from junior to senior level.

In Australia the coaching system is very basic and there are not many coaches who in their whole career have produced 3 or more athletes for the national team.

In the current state, coaching in Australia is a hobby and there are only a few full time coaches in the AA system.

All others are working outside of the system in their own time and after paid employment.

One point: What will motivate a coach to work more successfully - just enthusiasm and for how long?

AA paid $10,000 to coaches of athletes who achieved top 10 in the world. To produce this product (athlete) the coach needs to spend 7-10 years hard work.

Has a study been done about how much a coach spends of their own money in this time? Would you as a business man - work for this reward?

Coaches who prepare national champion or top 20 in the world have no financial reward at all.

The next point is that to produce an athlete who achieves top 10 in the world, a coach needs a high level of knowledge and experience - where can they get this from in AA system?

Coaches can’t get knowledge just from a book - they need to get it from older, more experienced coaches - and if the system doesn’t support and keep experienced coaches the knowledge will eventually disappear with them as they are forced to leave the system or the country.

(Who has replaced the following coaches? to name only a few: Phil King (Jana Pitman’s coach), Issa Peltola (Patrick Johnson’s coach), Michael Khmel (Matt Shirvington’s coach)and where are they now?

Even if there are coaches in the system, how do younger coaches, who want to increase their knowledge, access this practically in the current AA system?

How do coaches communicate and share both practical and creative ideas in the current system?

Usually a company fights to get and keep their best workers - AA is kicking the best workers (coaches) out -and this is causing a brain drain!!!

To prepare a good athlete you need 6-8 years, to prepare a good coach takes 15-20 years.

AA has to find and support coaches who consistently produce results.

But instead of this, they suppress and obstruct them. The result is that they quit or leave the country.

Management - who must help coaches and athletes solve their problems and also direct the development of athletics:

Point 1: One area that causes the most problems within the system is that there is no one who will take responsibility (is this lack of confidence or knowledge?) and who can make decisions (I can provide numerous examples of this).

Point 2: AA always says that there is not enough money and in 2004 cut all coaching positions (other than 4 or 5) and athletes support (other than massage and treatment etc).

Yet there was enough money to keep all the coordinators (who should coordinate what???) and even new positions were created.

Everyone is saying there is no money. Every question that the athlete and coach asks hits the wall with the comment ‘there is no money’.

Is the minister or government satisfied by the results in athletics or do they realise that the problems are caused by lack of money?

The Institute of Sport system was created 15 years ago to support the best coaches and athletes - now there are no coaches in any Institute of Sport, other than 2 in AIS and 2 in WAIS- only administrators -administrators of what - why are coordinators and administrators more important than the workers?

Often administrators have no understanding of HP or athletics at all.

Why not proportion some of this money directly to the athletes or coaches?

We should compare how much is spent on administration and how much on athletes to get an idea of unwise spending.

AA pays athletes travel money but they need support in order to prepare for the competition season.

How do other countries provide support, yet Australia with all its resources only manages to give minimal support??

In other countries, all athletes in a national team receive a monthly stipend (based on result) that is revised at the end of each season.

Could this be implemented within Australia?

Point 3: In sport every day situation’s occur in which coach and athlete need the help and a solution to practical problems from management.

To give you an example of a simple problem: Commonwealth Bronze medallist and national champion couldn’t get access to any facilities to do strength training and recovery sessions.

AA couldn’t solve this problem and just ignored requests for help - the coach is alone with his problems;

Coaches and administration should be working on the same team and be like minded - instead they are spending their energy fighting!!!

How can a business be successful if there is no support for athlete or coach - who are the people producing the result?

If people are doing this for pleasure it is one direction, but if you wish to see Australian athletes in the top of the world, the system needs to change to make it more comparable.

In swimming national selection trial, 2008, e.g. athletes produced 8 world records - is this luck or the result of a system that works??

Point 4: To give you an example of some of the issues that coaches and athletes need to deal with on a regular basis - During the national selection trial for World Junior, on the day of competition there were pole volt mats at the end of the TJ run up - this made the run up short by 2-4 steps.

Athletes and coach spent 1 hour in the lead up to competition trying to find someone who could solve this problem - which should have been solved in 5 minutes.

Finally David Ginter - competition manager was asked (he is in a full time paid job with AA with a paid assistant) to move the mats- he said ‘no’ without any explanation or reason.

In this instance, again, coaches and parents flew to Gold Coast using their own money to support the athlete who has trained for 3-5 years to quailify for World Junior.

These situations and attitudes on the part of AA employees are becoming the ‘norm’ and people just don’t want to help.

This causes frustration and anger towards the athletics body as a whole.

Do situations like this promote the image of athletics?

Does it stimulate parents and junior athletes to continue athletics?

Is it professional? A high level of sport requires a high level of professionalism.

To put it bluntly the main problem with athletics in Australia is a total lack of support -morally and financially, for both the athlete and the coach.

Until this problem is resolved AA will continue getting low results at a World Championships level.

The problem is a vicious circle - until money is spent on athletes, coaches, and coaches education there is no chance of changing the cycle - no matter what management says.

If you keep on doing what you have always done, you will keep on getting the same result.
In business we call this stupidity and the business goes bankrupt.

I, on a personal level, have spoken (more than 20 times) to all levels of management on both a State and National level about these issues and have also given ideas of how to solve some of them.

I have now been forced out of the system and I have been surprised how many coaches have contacted me with similar feelings of total dissatisfaction with the direction of AA and also the lack of support within the system.

It would be in the board’s best interest to do something. High level of sport requires a high level of professionalism.

This email is the tip of the iceberg - I haven’t mentioned state problems, the clubs situation, relationship with little athletics, coaching education courses, schedule and quality of competitions - all these are what HP is based on.

In each of these areas are people in full time employment so why should so many problems exist?

I could go on and on citing one example after another of ways that money is spent unwisely and that personal relationships (between participants in the system) seem to be more important than results.

I don’t want to overload this email with copious facts and figures but I certainly have enough evidence to support each of my words.

Other coaches have also very similar stories and evidence and we certainly can come up with a very long list - if you are interested!!!

I have raised many questions throughout this email and would be happy to discuss solutions with you - because they DO EXIST.

As there is no one on the board of AA who represents coaches, I would be interested in talking to the board about these and other issues from a coach’s perspective.

Then you can clearly make some decisions about the future direction of Athletics in Australia.

But while there are no coaches represented, you are only hearing one side of the problem.

To substantiate my opinions and statements in this email and also to maintain my professionalism, I would like to give you some of my statistics:

[b]As an athlete, I was USSR record holder in TJ (17.55) and competed for 11 years in the national youth, junior and senior USSR teams.

For 6 years I was in the top 10 in the world (in 1983, ranked #1)and twice silver medallist of European Championship.

As a coach, my athletes have competed in 3 Olympic Games, (silver, 5th and 9th place); 5 World Championships, 2 World Cups and several European Championships.

In the past 7.5 years in Australia, I have had 4 athletes in the national team-all national champions; a Silver Olympic Medallist, a 5th place in Olympics, a Bronze Commonwealth Medallist and have created (in last 5 years) 2 junior squads in both SA and Vic (14-23 years old) who have won 51 medals from national championships.

To this end I have the experience as both an athlete and coach to ensure that my opinions are of value and not just the rantings of a disgruntled coach.

High level of sport requires a high level of professionalism.
[/b]I still believe Australia has huge human potential, good facilities and conditions and a great historical tradition in athletics.

I believe that this difficult time for athletics will pass if we will have the courage to change, accept and truly work together to find best solutions for our sport.
Regards
Vasily

Vasily Grishchenkov
Vagri Consulting
Telephone: 0422394968
Email: vagri55@hotmail.com

:mad: … AND THIS IS A LETTER OF COMPLAINT (EMAILED IN APRIL 2008) TO ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA’S HIGH PERFORMANCE MANAGER MAX BINNINGTON FROM GARY CALVERT, COACH OF CURRENT WORLD NUMBER-ONE JAVELIN THROWER JARROD BANNISTER

Dear Max,

It has taken me a while to respond to your email due to pressing matters.

Firstly I would like to comment that I am continualy disappointed with how the High Performance area operates in respect to appointments, proactive support, and the continual neglect of a major event area of Track and Field in Australia.

I have expressed for 2 yrs that there needs to be a serious change to the funding, event appointments and support for the Throws area. Prior to myself Stuart Rendall and Will Hamlyn Harris tried in vain for the same thing for the previous 3 years.

Clearly Max, I really dont think that the High Performance Management are listening nor show capacity and or desire to make corrections and be proactive in initiating transparently clear requirements and initiatives for the high performing throws section of Track and Field.

Why this is I dont know. We should not have to wait again for budget changes in 2009 whilst other ares in Track and Field are continually being funded. The throws are should not be last in funding it should be first. We are spending far too much money on administration staff.

I have painstakingly built a thrower Jarrod Bannister to World No.1 status currently in an environment that alienates myself as a High Performance Coach and avoids promotion of that skillset within Track and Field.

It is beyond my comprehension that both Mike Poulton and yourself made a belated appointment for a National Event Coordinator for Throws to Matthew Horneman without advertising it nor giving worthy aspirants a chance to apply for the role. On top of that again the appointment was without funding. It is obvious that as the High Peformance Manager there needs to be an intention to redirect funding to a paid position. How many more world class throwers do we need to produce for there to be a serious overview of this area.

To the point that I nor many other HP Coaches and athletes have ever heard of Matthew Horneman, nor can we undestand the rationale of his appointment other that the ‘Volunteer status’ - non paid.

To appoint Matthew to the role and to not appoint one of 3-4 current HP coaches who have Olympic and or World Championship selected athletes, is nothing short of continually moving along the line of constant ‘Facilitation’ as a direction for the sport.

The thought and effort that went into this appointment is most disappointing. With all other appointments you didnt humour the Distance group with a masters fun runner, but chose and funded Tim OShaunnesy. Why because of his skill set and supposedly priority for this event group over throws. The same can be said of other event groups an so on.

I spoke to Matthew Horneman and I have to say that I am insulted buy not being considered or interviewed and I am equally insulted for the sport that other key people werent interviewed such as Gus Puopolo, Dennis Knowles etc.

Finally I am at a loss to understand why appointments to Major Teams have consistently gone towards non performing HP Coaches and adminsitrators and that the key performing HP Coaches are left out in the cold.

I cannot rationalise how with Scott Martin, Danni Samuels, Jarrod Bannister, Kylie Wheeler in the team and potential people Justin Anelzark, Ben Harridine, Katherine Mitchell, Kim Mickle on the next level how we do not appoint a throws Coach instead of an administrator.

The continual stresses that coaches and athletes have to endure to not have AA High Performance Management take a modern view that these potential finalist and medallists need to be taken seriously and have supported appointed coaching staff that are chosen on an order of merit status and that the requirment of more adminstration staff should be cancelled.

Max I can reitterate to you right now that I am personally insulted for myself for not being appointed, and the other HP Coaches and general coaches and athletes in the Throws area for the minimised appointment. There needs to be drastic change in the appointment process to one that is transparent and inclusive.

Footnote: Recently I organised off my own back a Javelin Clinic for coaches and athletes on the back of jarrods big throw and the interest it created out there in Track and Field.
I had Lindsay Burgoyne the National Youth Coordinator javelin, Kim Mickle No.1 Female thrower in Australia from WAIS, Hamish Peacock Tasmania and his father World Junior selection, Brett Castle Australian Team tour of China, and so on all participate.
Mike Poulton, Matthew Horneman or Max Binnington did not attend the clinic for a show of support.
This was a HP clinic as you can see by the participants. Josh Robinson would have attended if he had not been in NZ.

Max I believe we have a major problem in the High Performance area and until we have a focused change to the way this is being administered we will always only be aiming at facilitating not tangible delivery and development.

Regards
Garry Calvert

:mad: …AND HERE’S PART OF A LETTER FROM GARY BOURNE, A HIGHLY EDUCATED AND CREDENTIALLED JUMPS COACH WHO DEVELOPED NUMEROUS OLYMPIANS INCLUDING LONG JUMPERS, OLYMPIC SILVER MEDALLIST JAI TAURIMA AND OLYMPIC FOURTH-PLACED BRONWYN THOMPSON…

it has been a thankless task to be a personnel coach of a high performance athlete or a squad of these athletes including very talented juniors in the Athletics Australia system since 2005.

It has also become clear to me over the past 3 years that either the HP management group or the AA management group OR both have made this process of “isolation” a deliberate management strategy.

I find myself very disappointed in AA that as a coach of HP athletes I have been comprehensively isolated and punished for having performed some of the best work of my coaching career from 2004 onwards.

One can only wonder why this has occurred because honest and frank answers simply cannot be extricated from current HP management.

Clearly sometime when this current regime was being set up there occurred some comprehensive character assassination of internationally successful coaches such as myself and yourself and others.

Perhaps to determine where this occurred those who need to know should have to look no further than those who were highly prominent in political activity in the former regime and who continue to wield considerable influence / be highly prominent politically in the regime that currently controls the sport.

Those people represent the cancer in our sport and act only in self-interest. They seek self promotion by seeking to underhandedly destroy the reputations of others around them.

Some would say that the direction taken in HP is attributable to the recommendations of the review (2004). This is stretching a very long bow however.

The “REVIEW” of athletics was conducted during an Olympic campaign and many of the personal coaches of the HP athletes were focussed totally on Athens (and they were overseas) and were not in a position to contribute their ideas.

Others at home or full-time employees (perhaps more politically oriented) were obviously focussed on their jobs while some others based in Australia and having had little involvement in contemporary HP athletics had irrational theories as to how the sport would work better.

I did have discussions with Tudor Bidder and Keith Connor prior to leaving for Europe in 2004 and it was my clear understanding from these discussions that the situation for successful HP coaches would improve markedly in a support based on merit direction after the review.

Something went very wrong somewhere along the line but I am not sure how / who or where. I know I coached the highest placed individual Australian athlete in a track and field event in Athens and I was NEVER interviewed, consulted or my point of view sought by the review.

Not to have deliberately sought the opinions of those who WERE being successful in HP at the time - the coaches of individual athletes in the team, always seemed to me to be a glaring weakness in this review.

Many of the recommendations of the review were commendable in the end but the appointment by AA of personnel in the HP area was nothing short of a disaster for the HP coaches and the developing and HP athletes.

This fact was glaringly clear to all who new the sport in its contemporary form from as early as the middle of 2005.

We are now almost in the middle of 2008 and nothing has been done about it and EVERYONE who I speak to - the recognised employed coaches and isolated HP coaches alike - agrees this HP group have no idea what they are doing. They have taken us backwards 20 -30 years and despite protestations by many people, NOTHING has been done about it.

It is just a case of management listening to the protester, agreeing largely with what they have to say - then sitting on their hands and doing nothing about it in the hope the disgruntled will get tired and go away.

In Queensland I get to talk regularly with some of Australia’s best swim coaches.

Their international team coaches are selected on a points system based on the most successful coaches on an international scale.

There is a head coach and the others are all coaches of the best medal potential athletes on the team.

There are no free rides, no appointment of mates, no appointments of “people who we think are the best to do the job” (our mates and those who agree with our system).

If you expect to be a coach on the National swim team at the Olympics or World Championships then you better get your athletes to perform amongst the best in the Nation internationally - then you can hold your head up when your sport nominates you. You have earned your spot.

The AA system is a disgrace by comparison.

Apart from Alex Parnov and Craig Hilliard, the other appointees should hang their heads in shame at being appointed as athletics coaches on an Olympic Team.

They simply have not earned their spot (some do not even coach an athlete who is a national medallist) and they are there because they are employees of AA or are cunning political activists within the sport.

They have kept out those who are not employed by AA (and were consequently disadvantaged in the lead-up to selections) but have worked their backsides off for nothing for four years to get athletes on the team.

When I ask about cronyism in swimming the coaches tell me “oh NO! - Don Talbot got rid of that rubbish many years ago! - and it was one of the best things he did for the sport”.

Swim coaches and swimmers in Australia are rewarded on MERIT of performance and teams are selected and coaches are appointed to these teams accordingly.

Hence we have motivation by both swimmers and swim coaches to PERFORM at an international level.

The top 100 swimmers in Australia are funded based on the relative international level of their performances and the coaches are supported based on the performances of the swimmers in their squads.

THEIR SYSTEM WORKS! It is hardly rocket science to work out why. EFFORT by both athlete and coach leads to PERFORMANCE and that leads to REWARD.

For the sport - performance leads to profit - in terms of following, funding and sponsorships.

And so they have waged their efforts since the 1980’s to move their sport from poor performers to amongst the best in the world.

They did so with a smart and strong head coach and a supportive development programme that was inclusive of all the best coaches and athletes.

I could go on and on about the problems that have arisen since 2005 in coach education, coach peer support and junior athlete development.

We had in place event group extended camps that supported coach and athlete development and these were supported by ALL the best coaches and all the athletes.

The system we had supported juniors and their coaches at an appropriate level and in an appropriate way.

We (all the coaches and all the athletes) had a sense of “team” as we worked together to develop our juniors and our senior jumpers to international standard.

Professional development, sports science and the exchange of opinions and ideas helped form a strong framework for positive developments amongst our jumps coaches and our jumpers.

Evidence of the success of that work was seen in the period between 2000 - 2004 and continues to some extent today although we have become fragmented as group with no support and work largely in isolation.

Dismantlement of that system and its replacement with a system that purportedly places “appointed experts” in charge of event centres and junior development has lead to a clear drop-off in the sense of team and “motivation” in the jumps area and an abysmal drop off in coach and athlete professional development.

Coaches and high performance jumpers have worked in isolation around the country since 2005 and been made to feel they have little to contribute to the sport at international level - that level having been usurped by AA’s “appointed experts” who know best.

AA management have done some good things but in the area of HP and junior development they have clearly been a disaster.

The building of more tiers of HP management in a sport that fails to support its successful and potentially successful HP athletes and many of its successful HP coaches is clear evidence that the overall HP management group have failed totally to understand how to develop / bring about international level high performance in athletics.

This most important aspect of the sport has become a tragic comedy in which we as personal coaches are forced to play a very unfortunate part.

We need to make the views of all the HP personal coaches abundantly clear to AA.

Best wishes

Gary Bourne

After this season’s results and federation decisions like those seen this year, is it imaginable that anyone could have anything good to say?

I was stunned when I read those three letters and thought to share them with this forum where the lights are still switched on upstairs.

Those three letters are truly each well worth reading in full to get some idea of how rotten the High Performance pathway is in Australia.

Each of these world-class and long-time coaches has worked from grassroots and taken athletes to top-10 world lists (and merit lists as well in a couple of case).

Each coach lives in a different State of Australia, but they share a common grievance on behalf of their athletes.

I’ve never seen anything like this before…although from information leaking out of places like South Africa, Nigeria and Canada (the new Nigeria) the picture is global and paints a scene of a sport which exists for the bureaucrats who will claim every success as their own and disown all the plentiful failures.

The swimming model is obvious, and existed in Canada for coach selection. Of course, for those who wish to advance but can’t coach, this system has to be overthrown - and it has been in both Canada and Australia.

It has not been mentioned yet, and I feel I should bring it up (as yet another piece of the puzzle). One or more above mentioned coaches had to migrate from one small club/s to another because the committee could not commit him/them to their (old fashioned) way of coaching. It has been rejected by way of migration.

These days, I observe (daily) how the training is conducted by the coach/es and how the administration of local/small club/s interacts with coach/es. It is not surprising therefore to learn that AA is the biggest prick of all when little pricks act the same. This chronic disease has overtaken the whole body, no limb or organ has been spared.

It will take much more effort and organisation to rid of the pests and viruses of the past. Time to be radical, huh?

Let’s intercept the torch :slight_smile: (kidding)

In an Olympic year, no less.

Grishchenkov’s letter was pretty much the story of Australian Athletics summed up.

It’s fucking hard as a student-athlete to keep training and keep the desire going without any support. I’m currently not with any institute, and when you get injured without even the minimal support we’re all criticizing, it makes it even harder. And then you have to work to support yourself, and it’s like, I just want the opportunity to train properly for two years or something and not think about work or money or even studying too much.

I would love to see where I can take my athletics, because I’ve been told so many times I’ve got the talent, but without the support my talent is not even close to becoming fully realised.

And where can I turn really? I’m not running fast enough times to get corporate sponsorship, and injury has barred me from competing the last two seasons, which has made obtaining a scholarship incredibly hard (and obviously, I don’t have one yet because of the injuries).

So because of work and Uni and other social factors, I’m not training as well as I should be, because the therapy and advice isn’t there.

But what can I do? I love running too much to stop. I fucking love it. And it’s the “love of the game” that’s keeping me here, nothing else. No potential financial rewards. No fame.

So there are other athletes who are in the same boat as me, whether they’ve got scholarships or not, who have the desire to be the best in the world, but haven’t got the support that is required to get there. And like Grishchenkov said it takes YEARS to make world-class athletes, so the support required is ongoing.

But money talks right? It’s all about business…

Those letters could be any number of sports in either NZ or Aus and probably a lot of other countries. I should be available in 3-5 years to sort it out for AA :stuck_out_tongue:

I am happy to share our strategy for change if people require it, just not in public. If I can help send me a PM.

Don’t think they can wait that long, though the guy they really need, Robespierre, is no longer available.

John O’Neill has gone back to Rugby

A lot of Kiwi’s hate him over the 2003 RWC but man he gets the job done

Good one, Charlie. I am literally laughing out loud.

i loled…hard

I feel the same way as you. I may not have the same natural talent as you but the passion is there, and when i see others that are around me and I train with that have loads of talent but get no support. So they have to retire or get full time jobs because the lack of support. It is a buisness, and the people at the bottom (ie the coaches and athletes) get nothing.

HERE WE GO: A RESPONSE FROM THE NATIONAL FEDERATION

Coaches and athletes 'ignored’Article from: Font size: Decrease Increase Email article: Email Print article: Print Submit comment: Submit comment By Mike Hurst

April 24, 2008 12:00am

ATHLETICS Australia has come in for a savage broadside from some of the nation’s most respected coaches for failing to support and encourage the efforts of high-performance coaches and athletes.

“To put it bluntly, the main problem with athletics in Australia is a total lack of support - morally and financially - for both the athlete and the coach,” Vasily Grishchenkov wrote to the AA executive board in an email.

Grishchenkov is a former world No. 1 triple jumper from the USSR and, since moving to Australia nearly eight years ago, has been a prolific developer of talent in South Australia and one-time coach of pole vaulter Tatiana Grigorieva.

“It seems bureaucracy has overtaken results and if this situation does not change you will have no athletes and coaches within the system,” wrote Grishchenkov.

As Grishchenkov lamented he had been forced out, fellow jumps coach Queenslander Gary Bourne said he had “been comprehensively isolated”.

Bourne, a Brisbane school teacher, has developed a number of brilliant jumpers over many years, including Olympic long jump silver medallist Jai Taurima and 2006 Commonwealth Games long jump gold medallist Bronwyn Thompson.

Victorian Garry Calvert, who coached Jarrod Bannister to produce an Olympic gold medal-contending javelin throw at the Australian selection trials last month, has also complained of a lack of support.

Calvert also raised the matter of administrators and coaches without current team members being appointed as national team coaches, however a recent turn of events which has seen Bannister and Calvert split up may to some extent have watered down his argument.

AA’s chief executive Danny Corcoran said he was disappointed in some of the accusations, but added: "The basics of it is there is just not enough financial support in our system for the coaches. That’s just a fact.

“We’ve got to look at redirecting some of our funds to assist them and that’s very much on our agenda,” he said.

"We were really well funded last year on the way to the world championships in Osaka. We had a lot of athletes perform well in Europe. We got some money from the Australian Sports Commission.

"But I guess our results from Osaka were not as good as we’d hoped in the buildup to the Olympics and we certainly don’t have the same pool of funding this year.

"We will prepare our athletes as best we can but even in an Olympic year it’s very difficult. Coaches get edgy about accreditation [to gain access to Olympic training facilities and competition venues] but we can’t guarantee them accreditations which are really hard to get at an Olympic Games.

"We get a lot of noise and a lot flak in these times, but we’ll try and accommodate the coaches as best we can in the camp [in Singapore] leading up to the Games.

"I’ve got no doubt supporting the coaches is certainly the priority for us now. No matter what you do or say though, you’ll never have enough money and support so it’s no good going in that direction.

"It’s what we do with the Institutes of Sport, how we run our programs. Or, do we decide to support our coaches in the field because they’re the ones who are actually producing the athletes and busting their guts.

"So we are clearly moving in the direction of allocating funds. But we are locked into four-year terms in this [government] funding system, a four-year Olympic cycle. And currently on the table before our board is how we assist our coaches.

"I don’t want to denigrate our coaches. We get these letters all the time from coaches. But, having said that, we’ve also got to get some results. It can be a chicken-and-the-egg scenario, but there are very few coaches in this country who can be full-time paid coaches because there just isn’t that much money in the sport. You’ve got to be realistic.

“But regardless of how difficult these coaches can be, they’re still our life-blood. And, in this next funding cycle, support for them is really one of the things we want to address. I’ve coached. I feel for them.”

“To put it bluntly, the main problem with athletics in Australia is a total lack of support - morally and financially - for both the athlete and the coach,” Vasily Grishchenkov wrote to the AA executive board in an email.

Our top 100m guys are the ones being punished at this point in time. Its unfortunate because many are at the ends of there careers, a decision in part that has been forced upon them. This harsh AA stance also effects the guys in the mid 20’s who may decide to turn to other sports whilst they still have time on their side.

I agree, and if I was a athlete coming through I would look at other sports.

I could of played AFL in my state (not the elite comp - 2nd or 3rd tier level) trained 3-4 times a week, got paid to play.

Oh yeah, for sure. I could have been playing football (soccer) in the local premier league – training twice a week, having one game on the weekends and getting paid up to $200 a week on top of other benefits. I actually trained with a team a couple of years back for some general fitness, and the training was pretty easy, not to mention the fact that sometimes half the team wouldn’t show up to training and nobody would blink an eyelid.

We’re not doing track for the money, but we still need to get the support.

I don’t know what AA is thinking, really. Are Olympic Medallists just going to spring up out of nowhere? Probably not.

It’s also an issue of respect and decency. Why stay in a sport in which the governing body treats you as an has being or puts a line through because they deem your not worth the investment.

Well, it looks like that’s precisely what AA wants you to think. But even if they don’t believe a particular athlete is worth investing in - or investing in any longer (as may be the case with Shirvington and Patrick Johnson) - they should still offer words of encouragement, however hollow they may seem to some of us.

Passion and dedication do not entitle anyone to receive funding, but a pat on the back costs the administrators nothing…