Charlie Francis Speed Seminars in Australia

Thanks KK…

So let get this correct…you’d inject the cream (in its natural state) into the site? Or is there an injectable version? - Sorry if this question sounds stupid!

Lombardi paradox: Over a certain degree of knee extension, hamstrings help in knee extension. (despite being knee flexors…)
Its bveacuse of lever, only the hip extesion function is activated, so are co contractors of the quads

Jason, to be straight. I personally wouldn’t inject any bloody thing anywhere. If a medical expert considered such a measure appropriate, I’d go with that advice and let the doc deliver. I very much doubt the topical cream would be identical to the injectable version of Traumeel. :slight_smile:

Absolutely! The only benefit of the injectable version is when done by a qualified doctor into the exact deficit in a grade 3 tear under the guidance of ultrasound picutes, otherwise just rub in the cream. (injectable and cream are not the same)

would this be achieved by keeping max speed runs under 7 seconds with long recovery?

Is the ideal duration for max speed under 7 or 8 seconds?

thanks.

It will be a moving target as duration in the alactic zone changes but the majority of the alactic volume in a S to L program will be in the sub 7 sec range during phase one with movement beyond that in phases two and three. How much the alactic threshold might move must surely be influenced by the level of the athlete.

I suppose genetics, the effectiveness of recovery etc will play major roles in determining how long an athlete may stay training at a specific distance.

In the 400m work I’ve done I found it took about two weeks to tolerate and adapt to any specific band of speed, and four weeks to retain that tolerance (adaptation) for the season. That would be based on two speed/distance-specific sprint sessions per week, with one or two related sessions per week. But that’s not in the alactic zone.

Charlie do you have a thought on adaptation time-frame for the S2L alactic work?
How soon before you may move the training distance along?
Or what signs do you look for to know when the time is right to extend the athlete/distance?

I think there are two different objectives at work here: Long term adaptation and shorter term preparation for a known objective or event (peaking). I wouldn’t want to get tied up entirely in this concept as the real result will come from the final Special Endurance sessions you can deliver.
As for adaptation, it depends on the individual’s nervous system but prob there would be some lengthening of the alactic zone by the end of the first training phase. i see no reason why, during this adaption phase, the aerobic tolerance can’t be moved as well (and prob farther) as they don’t need to conflict.

[i]Question about Trameel:

Having done a search I’ve found the cream version. I’d much prefer to use this way to apply…Is it just as effective? I’d like to order some from Canada as I couldn’t find a UK vendor.[/i]

One of my athletes uses the Traumeel cream and swears by it. In Australia, you will need a prescription and should use it according to your doctor’s instructions. Obviously it’s a lot stronger than the normal anti inflam creams available so use it wisely.

My error. You don’t need a prescription but it’s lack of immediate availabilty in Australia means your best option is to ask your doctor.

I think it depends on the area it’s sold in. As it’s homeopathic, it shouldn’t be prescription unless it’s to be injected or is mixed with some sort of anti-inflammatory. It’s on the shelf in Canada and most places but I can’t speak for Aus.

Charlie, could you expand on the above? Thanks!

The aerobic work can be challenging even though it fits the low intensity category (short breaks etc). Just as the med ball download shows a low intensity session that is still very tough.

Oh yes, this is clear. I was just a bit confused with “moving aerobic work farther”. Is this distance-wise indeed? Or enhancing it in general (e.g., shorter breaks, as it gets faster)?

Usually shorter breaks but could go to more reps as well but usually wouldn’t be needed.

while we are on the australian theme and as its also australia day i thought i’d post this for Charlie who wonders why australians eat a fungus like product called vegemite.

Vegemite gelato - scoop of the day

It’s a multicultural twist on an Aussie favourite that’s sure to get the tastebuds tingling this Australia Day.

Those celebrating the national day in Brisbane will have the chance to cool down after a couple of snags and beers - with a Vegemite gelato.

Italian-trained Gherardo Deflorian and his partner Lei Hua, of Brisbane’s Gelateria Cremona, concocted the unique ice cream flavour for lovers of the Australian icon.

“I thought we’d do something different for Australia Day and so I was thinking about maybe lamington, but Vegemite has to be more controversial,” Mr Deflorian told AAP.

"When I came to Australia there’s so many more ingredients than there were in Italy so I like to keep my job a bit more fun, a bit more interesting so I try new things.

“Everything can be transformed into a gelato.”

Mr Deflorian had to get his customers to help him taste-test his newest creation because he doesn’t like Vegemite himself.

“They all say it’s quite a weird taste but some people do like Vegemite and they say it’s quite good,” he said.

“It reminds them of when they were little and they had Vegemite on toast with butter.”

The Vegemite gelato is not the first time Mr Deflorian has experimented with unusual ice cream flavours.

Last year he made a Guinness gelato for St Patrick’s Day and a pear and blue-vein cheese gelato for a local food festival.

And he plans to make a rose-flavoured gelato for St Valentine’s Day next month - bellissimo!

Sure, that’s clear!

thought i’d chime in with some personal thoughts and reviews from the seminars here in OZ. wanted to do a postcard series but just ran out of time.

working with charlie in australia started with a bang he came to the track to watch some of my squad at work, one of my girls who opened with a 12.00 in her first and only race of the summer has been out for 3 months with a achillies problem endless sessions at the physio came up with nothing and he even suggested a needle so she could run at state pain free. charlie took the task upon himself and soon found the root of the problem “shes got a rat under the carpet” was his response as he felt her calf muscle. my athlete said in the previous months going there the physio had not even touched her calf to see where it was coming from.
“f__k i hate lazy people was the response” so CF massaged away went through different warm up routines to stay off the calf, stretching, massage techniques which we have been maintaining and although this year has gone she will be back better then ever next year.

the rest of the group went through a bend technique session which cleared up and clarified alot of what we were doing.

The sydney seminar was the most popular of the 3 with over 90 attending we lacked a proper track for the practical sessions and i must say the venue where we had the seminar randwick rugby club deserve all my thanks as on many occaisions i had to change the venue, once they knew who the presenter was they were not interested in hosting us and only Charlie, KK and Ange know of the crap i endured and the lost coaching opportunities that have been taken away by a small group of narrow minded people here in OZ. but one door closes and another opens as they say.

Our other squad session were spent doing pick up drills and starting technique after 3 sessions doing pick up drills we did a 60/80/100 session with most dramtically improving their 60m times one of my younger girls smashing her standing start times (timed from first movement) 7.3 down from 7.8 prior to some CF minor adjustments after watching it charlie said theres no way thats a 7.8 sec 60m

through the 3 weeks that i had to pick charlies brain i have been left with a far greater idea of warm up, massage techniques and rehab at training that we have already begun to implement, i have a far greater understanding of the technical and physical requirements needed.

our options to race and reap the rewards of the work are limited this season as its drawing to a close but bring on the next GPP.

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  1. State of Strength and Conditioning
    Most NFL S+C coaches are good and the RAMS have an excellent program.
    This was interesting considering how much you read on the net about what idiots pro strength and conditioning coaches are.

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Anybody have any insight as to what exactly the Rams are doing?

I recently attended one of the Charlie Francis seminars in Australia. Prior to the seminar I thought I had a reasonable understanding of his training philosophy and principles after all I have read Speed Trap and Training for Speed, own 2 of his DVD’s (GPP and Fundamentals 1) and am an active member of his forum. I knew I would learn many things but was amazed at how much more I learned. The 2 main things I finally comprehended were the importance of flexibility and weights being general…….I can be a slow learner.

Below is a recap of some of the things covered, as I understood them. There was whole lot more and if you ever get the chance to attend one of his seminars I strongly suggest do!

Charlie the man.
People have asked me what was Charlie like? To me he seemed down to earth and pretty comfortable with his lot. He entertained with anecdotes and insights. No question was dodged. There was no false modesty, bragging or PR speak in his delivery, it was a matter of simply presenting things as they are.

Charlie appears to have little respect for officialdom in big part due to his belief that money is taken away from where it really needs to be spent …athletes. There is also a large amount of self serving hypocrisy and favouritism.

The CNS is like a cup.
The best way I can relate my understanding of the CNS is that it is like a cup. You never want it to overflow! This means you should always play it safe. You are better to slightly under train than over train. Supercompensation may not be as great but it will still be ok. Never go for the great super workout as the best possible outcome from it is a return to normal. There is no need to see the ultimate levels of an athlete in training.

The volume of each training session needs to be managed at the time. If there is an extraordinary speed session you may need to drop weights altogether as including the weight session may cause the cup to overflow thereby stalling, or even regressing progress. Progression is vital. If it is a high CNS day you adjust the volume as required to reach the appropriate CNS limit, conversely if the day is low CNS ensure it stays that way. Never have back to back high CNS days.

Whatever you add in to your training you have to take something out, so if you want to start doing arm curls what are you going to take out?

Athlete preparation.
Extraordinary results come from extraordinary preparation, they don’t just magically happen. When correct preparation is done results will follow. That said it is crucial to train to the athlete’s level, if they are average and can realistically go 2 rounds at a meet then train for that not for them reaching the final. If they make it to round 3 that is a bonus and you can then just see what happens.

How do you mentally prepare for an important race? By having adequate and appropriate preparation and training. Yes you get nervous but if you have done the work you draw confidence from that, if you haven’t done the work you create pressure on yourself.

Flexibility is imperative. You simply cannot achieve the necessary positions without it. Incorporate stretching as part of your warm up. A shortfall in flexibility should be addressed with stretching after a session however you have to do what is necessary. If an athlete is tight and you have to perform PNF or static stretching before a race then that is what you have to do. Better that than them trying to race as they were.

During the practical sessions Charlie performed some PNF work on the athletes, I was amazed at the effort used. Some of the guys were quite strong and he was really working hard to maintain the resistance, harder than I expected he would do. I was also intrigued to see mid session he would call athletes out and give them a ‘straighten out’ (back to Charlie, arms across body, breath out and he would lift them off the ground).

There is often debate about appropriate squat depth, full range versus 1/2 ….it doesn’t matter that much. Flexibility is not gained in the weight room! It is done outside of that. The weight room is for gaining strength and flexibility is dealt with separately.

Always stretch after a session and it doesn’t always have to be a lot. Top athletes are so flexible that often them hitting a position is more of a spot check lasting a second or so to ensure adequate range of motion is in place. If it weren’t it would be addressed. When stretching just go to full range of motion not necessarily hold for X amount of time.

If you only ever do ballistic stretching how do you increase your range of motion?

Have a set warm up and stick to it regardless of the situation. So do the same thing whether it be a training session, club meet, nationals or Olympics. Suitable warm ups are given on the GPP DVD.

Therapy is ALWAYS a gain.

Heat rubs can help just don’t get it in your eyes……or elsewhere!

Athletes should never be sore from training. In contact sports they will obviously get aches and pains but it should not be not from conditioning work.

Sauna’s can be useful but always take a cold towel for your head.

Charlie doesn’t like creatine due to ‘false’ strength gains and the possibility of injury from those. If you do use it then use a limited amount and use it both pre and post workout. No need for a loading phase.

If you use coffee don’t add sugar or artificial sweeteners. Ben (and most West Indian’s) not big coffee drinkers so got a real boost from a cup.

He questions the need for high GI intake post workout and believes it is better to keep insulin at flat level.

Tryptophan can be blocked by using Tyrosine as supplement or with a high protein diet. This slows down Ph change.

Good results can be achieved using arginine pre workout.

You should increase the efficiency of directional changes by sprinting in a straight line and playing the sport, e.g. tennis. Zig zag type drills are detrimental to performance due to stretching of the ankle region.

The focus for most sports should be on increasing speed reserve.

Planning

Develop core speed first and move out.

Speed reserve is a one-way street. Absolute speed affects Speed Endurance directly but SE doesn’t affect speed directly. If SE is moving up results will come. If SE is not improving then change things up.

With a raw beginner the best gains are achieved via general fitness, accelerations to 30m, med ball throw and accelerations on grass. Go for the whole second gains at the end rather than the partial seconds at the start.

Beginners don’t need individual programs like more advanced athletes. People would say to Charlie that X athlete should be on a more individualised program because they ran a fast time but they were only a beginner so can be not so personalised.

The number of periodization phases used annually varies on the intensities required. e.g. shotputter = 5, 100m = 3, marathon 1 or 2

Over time (after year 7) the volume MUST drop. This is both total volume and the number of max sessions. This is where many go wrong they either keep increasing or level it out, it must drop to continue progressing.

Whether an athlete follows a long to short or short to long program depends on how they can handle CNS stress. Those with a stronger CNS should go S-L. You will be able to tell from the runs and possibly how they physically handle it what they are best suited to.

If going S-L then the GPP phase may be shorter than that for L-S. The downside of L-S is that can be harder to develop speed later.

Year to year you can change from L-S to S-L but not in same year.

The number of races required to run at best.
100m 5-6
200m 4-5
400 2-3 (1 –200)
100 / 110 H 8

When tapering make last max session 10 days out that way if any injury is sustained you have a chance to address it. It also gives top athletes a chance for full recovery of CNS. The work from there will depend upon the athlete’s ability to handle CNS stress. A lesser athlete can go closer to the meet with last weight session. It is important during the taper to start moving away from stimulus too close to sprinting, that is why last session before meet is upper body.

400m runners can follow a similar GPP plan (as per GPP DVD) but the volume of tempo work should be higher, not a whole lot though. For example instead of doing just the long tempo session (2200m) they could do long and short one (1000) to get a total of session of 3200m. Although not a fan of continuous runs they could possibly even a 20 min run before a tempo session although NEVER on the road as it beats up legs too much. A better option may be simply to reduce rest periods of tempo session. Tempo doesn’t have to be an easy session just ensure it is not draining on the CNS and times are less than 75% of best on that surface so if running on grass that will be significantly above what it would be on a track.

If you have access to grass use it!

Pool sessions can be done in place of tempo but do 50% more work and 50% less recovery due to buoyancy. So if on grass you were doing 30 sec on 30 off then do 45 sec on 15 sec recovery.

Weights and plyos
Weights always follow track running never the other way round. That way you can adjust the weight volume (or even drop it) to manage the CNS.

Sprinting moves weights up not vice versa.

The higher the level of the athlete the less need to change the weights program. Don’t be afraid to keep it simple. Some weight sessions were only 20 minutes long.

If you do weights immediately after running there is less need to warm up.

With higher level athletes be careful with testing maxes, for example a top level shot putter should never test 1RM as it is too high and potential for injury too great. Ben stopped progressing his squat poundages as the chance of injury was too great, he could squat 600lbs, did he really need to go higher? At some point the possibility of serious injury outweighs the need to keep adding weigh to the bar.

Do not do single leg plyos as the risk of injury is just too great, there are coaches who advocate that work and have had numerous achilles injuries as a result…but still they carry on with it. .

Don’t worry too much about strength discrepancies between legs.

Box squats present too much risk of injury, you are standing with a heavy weight on your back then sit down on a box, release the hips and try to get up…leave it to the powerlifters.

Can’t see any point in depth drops (sticking landing) then jumping over a hurdle, why not just do hops with as short a ground contact as possible?

No plyos for basketball players as they are already getting a high volume via practices and games.

Chains, bands, eccentrics etc will all increase weights but at what cost? Every change creates adaptation and adaptation creates trauma on the body often manifested as soreness, which stalls progress as athlete needs to recover.

Technique
Ensure the correct arm action is established before all else. The hands remain at 90 degrees and come to the body’s mid line at eye level and DOWN to the point of the hip. Practice in front of mirror to ensure the correct angle is maintained and arms are going down not back. The arms may straighten slightly at the bottom but this is due to the force exerted and should never be an intentional action. At the top make sure the arms don’t lose the 90 degree angle and come in too close, that way the shoulders stay down. With the shoulders down they can rotate which in turn enhances hip rotation. Stride length is greatest when the knee is at its farthest from the body. Hip rotation gives an extra inch and /2 per stride for nothing.

Hands open or closed? Not important so long as thumbs are up and hands relaxed.

When sprinting you should only ever be thinking about up and down, not pulling or pushing.

Get things right at slow speeds then only increase speed when the technique is correct.

Go with the characteristics of the track surface do not try and over power it.

Don’t time easy – fast – easy runs as the athlete may be tempted to ‘go for it’ from the start which is not the objective. Focus on the fast portion is working the arms, which will lead to increased hip height; it should be visible (refer to GPP DVD).

When the hips are high and running at top speed the hamstrings and quads are not in conflict and are working as one due to the force coming from the hip like a pendulum. This can only be achieved with adequate hip height and is called Lombard’s paradox.

With good starts the first few steps feel light. On set breathe in and hold. Focus on getting the lead hand out, forget about power just let it happen. The rest of start information is in Fundamentals 1 DVD. Med ball drills can be found in GPP DVD.

Charlie’s squad had the best starts in the country and didn’t own blocks. All work was done via drills and med ball work.

Drills and med ball work avoid paralysis by analysis in blocks.

When running the bend tilt your head down and to the left, eyes look at the line approx 5m ahead, all else remains the same. This helps hug the line. It is important to stay like that till you complete the bend then lift it back to normal position. You can practice by starting from 1/2 way through bend and build up.

Great! Thanks for that John a very thorough review, I learned a lot there!