Good - challenge EVERYone - Poliquin, Charlie etc.
This should sex up the discussion
Explain yourself KK! 
nice snatch
as always, mort kills me.
Doesn’t this girl have a 30" VJ?
i’ve said it b4 and i’ll say it again, absolute strength does’nt and wont make a sprinter( or in this case a long jumper)
i could swear he’s a shot putter…
Dwight Phillips is a long jumper (and some time sprinter). Adam Nelson is a shot putter. Anyhow, amateur opinions don’t matter here. Especially when the argument has no substance. Moving on…
HILARIOUS!
arnie what do you think is the most important quality to develop in the gym?
several things:
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get your facts straights, DP won a world title and olympic title and PRed in the 60m,since working with Poliquin. Call that getting worse?
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When it is publicised than an athlete works with Poliquin he usually has been doing for some time. And also sometimes has already left thinking he/she has learned everything he needs to know. And often you see then a dip in performance (Boston).Those who can afford it, come back.
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can’t you talk about the issue? free squat vs full squat. confront ideas, be intelligent? instead of of launching personnal attacks safely protected that you are by your pseudo and distant location?
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I propose a new rule for the board? no more discussing people’s credibility !
just like drugs! forbidden! Rupert, Charlie, please?
that would make the board what is used tobe in the beginning: a fantastic forum for ideas? It still is, but we need to scroll through way too much of that crap. -
Poliquin is terribly expensive. GET OVER IT! become expensive yourself, do not buy his stuff, whatever. People who are too expensive do not make any money, he makes a whole bunch! he finds a lot of people to pay for his services. He’s not in a position where someone has to train with him! athletes choose to do so!
6.who knows if the famous ‘I got the tables’ story has any truth to it?
- Poliquin is almost always misquoted.
8 this is the first and last time I post about someone’s credibility.
strength of course bt not 2 the point that it interferes with speed. if absolute strength was the most or even just that important all the fastest men would b the strongest and that is not the case.
there r many qualities that make a great sprinter and strength is only 1 of them, alot of wanabe wise guys like those who think that if they get super strong that they will automatically crack super fast times and then r confused when they run super slow times.
there is a limit 2 mans training potential and if 1 quality is over trained the other qualities will suffer. the right kind of strength will make u run faster the wrong 1 will slow u down. alot of sprinters could lift much heavier weights if they trained 4 absolute brut strength bt don’t, they only train 4 what they need.
just trying to add some levity to a discussion which was/is a bit too aggro at times.
ah my mistake, got the names mixed up!
When did he start coaching him then because every article I have read has it well after the Olympics.
- can’t you talk about the issue? free squat vs full squat. confront ideas, be intelligent? instead of of launching personnal attacks safely protected that you are by your pseudo and distant location?
if this is directed towards me, I openly said I don’t know much about Poliquin’s methods and asked for people to post–most of what has been posted or written about him here and elsewhere seems to show that he is mostly lifting based and little info otherwise.
6.who knows if the famous ‘I got the tables’ story has any truth to it?
Not sure, but the owner of the board is one who says it happened.
I want to say in the article I read on the subject (I’ll have to find the article in BFS), Poliquin started training him before the 2004 Olympics. But I can’t be sure until I find it.
I read one on EliteFTS around 2004/early 2005 and they said he was coached by some guy that used a modified Tier System. The relation of EFS and Coach Kenn is quite clear though, so who knows.
I know for a fact that Philips was working with Poliquin before the Olympics.
Notice I say “Worked” instead of coached, as there is a difference between helping out in some areas of an athletes progression and coaching them.
Poliquin is a strength coach not a jumps or throws coach. His knowledge in the gym and other related areas is second to none.
In response to an earlier post, I have found that if I apply his methods, as I have interpreted them, to progress an athlete then they became like a bodyduilder, tight and not very athletic.
With athletes I don’t use isolation exercises, arm days, and so on, rare occasion excepted.
If I use his principles of program design and exercise progression I have very good results.
Dead on assessment of his skills.
Why are the principles and methods separate and different?