Books (one more time) Advice?

[Supervenomsuperman]

@svass

No. I got it and would have been pissed if I had spent more than $4 on it.

If I can obtain it for 30USD is that too much? What is the main things you found wrong with it and why do you dislike it so? What is the book really about?

[Supervenomsuperman]

@RonS

If you’ve read and understood Enoka, then I wouldn’t buy “Physiology of Sport and Exercise”, it’s good as a more simple primer for this stuff. The best thing about it is the detailed explanations of the nervous system, but otherwise, it’s more a ‘good first read book’.

Although now, I’d prefer it over Supertraining. I"d also change my recommendation for order. After doing some more research I’d say…
“Physiology of Sport and Exercise”
“Neural Mechanics of Human Movement”
“Strength and Power in Sport” by Komi
Ron

What about this order,
“Physiology of Sport and Exercise” David Costill

Biomechanics of Sport and Exercise
by Peter McGinnins
edition: 1999

Then
“Neural Mechanics of Human Movement” Enoka 3rd edition.
“Strength and Power in Sport” by Komi
2nd edition.

[Supervenomsuperman]

amazon.com now has this book.

Tell me what you think of this book,

Strength Training for Sport
by William, Ph.D. Kraemer, Keijo Hakkinen (Paperback - January 15, 2002)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0632055685/ref=sib_rdr_ex/103-7848752-1922234?_encoding=UTF8&p=S00C#reader-page

[Supervenomsuperman]

I know this thread is primarily for books; however, I wanted people’s opinions of this DVD,

http://www.ultimateathleteconcepts.com/store/dvd.html

[Blinky]

@Supervenomsuperman

I know this thread is primarily for books; however, I wanted people’s opinions of this DVD,

http://www.ultimateathleteconcepts.com/store/dvd.html

I guarantee it’s brutal. All the books on the site look useless too. The guy just puts “Explosive” on the front cover of every book and then probably gives you a bunch of pointless exercises. Just because it says “explosive” doesn’t mean it’s good.

I haven’t found a decent training book other than the CFTS …and I’ve searched long and hard.

[RedPrintz]

What do people think of

“Science and Practice of Strength Conditioning” by William j Kraemr(sp) ??

I have just orderd this but soon i will be buying:

1 ) SuperTraining
2 ) Science and Practice of Strength Training

[duxx]

Hi guys, nice discusion here
I read Enokas textbook (3rd edition), Zatsiorsky (Fizicka svojstva sportiste - Physical abilities of sportsman - my “first serious book” and Science and practice), Poliquins book (Reps and sets) and ofcourse Supertraining. There is a lot of books that I read but there is a lot of more to get read…
About Supertraining… This book is a biggest source of Soviet training methods for you who dont know Russian (me too). Second, it is a critical thinking foundation for kinesiology and not some kind of a training cookbook…
I really like Siff thinking and this book was a eye-opener for me. I also got an archive of his Puzzles and paradoxes wich are also great read. You can find them on net. The goal of Siffs text is in developing critical thinking in readers and also explaining usage of popoular science branches(complexity,chaos, fuzzy,cybernetics) in training and periodisation…
What about his other books? Any read “Fact and Falacies in fitness” and “Massage and restoration in sport”???
I got couple of books to read this summer, and I am hoping you will comment them

1. Peggy A. Houglum - Therapeutic exercises for athletic injuries
2. Beachle - Essentials of strength training and conditioning
3. Willmore & Costill - Physiology of sport and exercise
4. Bowerman, Freeman - Athletics (dont know full name, HK publisher)
5. Joch - SPrint (german textbook)
6. CF - GPP essentials DVD

P.S.
I read Schmidt “Motor learning and performance” and it is a must read. Great style, great infor, very, very usefull… I also think that is a must have his other book “Motor control and learning”! Anyone read?

[duxx]

BIOMEHANICS

1. Hibbeler, “Engineering mechanics:statics and dynamics”
2. Enoka, “Neuromechanics of human movement”
3. Hamill, “Biomechanical basis of human movement”
4. Winter, “Biomechanics and motor control of human movement”
5. Nigg, “Biomechanics of musculo-skeletal system”
6. Nigg, “Biomechanics of running shoes”
7. Nigg, “Biomechanics and biology of movement”
8. Robertson, “Research methods in biomechanics”
9. Whiting, “Biomechanics of musculo-skeletal injury”
10. Knudson, “Qualitative analysis of human movement”
11. Gardiner, “Neuromuscular aspects of physical activity”
12. McComas, “Skeletal muscle: form and function”
13. Watkins, “Structure and function of the musculo-skeletal system”
14. Stergiov, “Inovative analysis of human movement”
15. Zatsiorsky, “Kinematics of human motion”
16. Zatsiorsky, “Kinetics of human motion”
17. Allard, “Three-dimensional analysisi of human movement”

MOTOR CONTROL

1. Schmidt, “Motor control and learning”
2. Schmidt, “Motor learning and performance”
3. Rothwell, “Control of human voluntary movement”
4. Zelaznik, “Advances in motor learning and control”

PHYSIOLOGY

1. Willmore, “Physiology of sport and exercise”
2. Berne, “Fiziologija”
3. Houston, “Biochemistry primer for exercise science”
4. Astrand, “Textbook of work physiology”
5. Guyton, “Medicinska fiziologija”

SPORTS MEDICINE

1. McGill, “Low back disorders”
2. Peterson, “Sport injuries”
3. Bahr, “Clinical guide to sport injuries” 4. Nyska, “The unstable ankle”
4. Ciullo, “Shoulder injuries in sport”
5. Landry, “Essentials of primary care sports medicine”

STRENGTH TRAINING AND CONDITIONING

1. Beachle, “Essentials of strength training and conditioning”
2. NSCA, “Essentials of personal training”
3. Brooks, “The complete book of personal training”
4. Fleck, “Designing resistance training programs”
5. Bompa, “Periodization:Theory and methology of training”
6. Alter, “Science of flexibility”
7. McGill, “Ultimate back fitness and performance”
8. Zatsiorsky, “Science and practice of strength training”
9. Siff, “Supertraining”
10. Siff, “Facts and falacies of fitness”
11. Siff, “Massage and restoration in sport(?)”
12. Boyle, “Functional training for sports”
13. Goldenberg, “Strength ball training”
14. Radcliffe, “High-powered plyometrics”
15. Lee, “Training for speed, agility and quickness”
16. Chu, “Jumping into plyometrics”
17. Dintiman, “Sports speed”
18. Noakes, “Lore of running”
19. Maglischo, “Swimming fastest”
20. Heyward, “Advanced fitness assessment and exercise prescription”
21. Araujo, “Flexitest”
22. Heyward, “Applied body composition assesment”
23. Verkoshansy, “Specific strength in sport (?)”
24. Matveyev, “”
25. Vorobyev, “Textbook of weightlifting”

RESEARCH

1. Thomas, “Research methods in physical activity”
2. Morrow, “Measurement and evaluation in human performance”
3. Vincent, “Statistics in kinesiology”

MARTIAL ARTS

1. Cohran, “Complete conditioning for martial arts”
2. Perkins, “Attack proof”
3. Vunak, “Anatomy of a street fight”
4. Quinn, “Bouncers guide barroom brawling”
5. Quinn, “Real fighting”
6. de Becker, “Gift of fear”

MULTY-BODY DYNANAMICS

1. A.A.Shabana, “Dynamics of multibody systems”
2. E.J.Haug, “Computer aided kinematics and dynamics of mechanical
   systems, Volume I: Basic methods”
3. P.E.Nikravesh, “Computer-aided analysis of mechanical systems”
4. M. Géradin, A. Cardano, “Flexible multibody dynamics: A finite
   element approach”

There is a lot more lacking because I stopped adding items on it because I get depresive every time I take a look at it
Some of books here are already read, some will fall out from a list etc.
Hope this widen your horizonts heheh
Maybe I could put the whole literature from HK on my list, what you think

[RedPrintz]

@duxx

BIOMEHANICS

1. Hibbeler, “Engineering mechanics:statics and dynamics”
2. Enoka, “Neuromechanics of human movement”
3. Hamill, “Biomechanical basis of human movement”
4. Winter, “Biomechanics and motor control of human movement”
5. Nigg, “Biomechanics of musculo-skeletal system”
6. Nigg, “Biomechanics of running shoes”
7. Nigg, “Biomechanics and biology of movement”
8. Robertson, “Research methods in biomechanics”
9. Whiting, “Biomechanics of musculo-skeletal injury”
10. Knudson, “Qualitative analysis of human movement”
11. Gardiner, “Neuromuscular aspects of physical activity”
12. McComas, “Skeletal muscle: form and function”
13. Watkins, “Structure and function of the musculo-skeletal system”
14. Stergiov, “Inovative analysis of human movement”
15. Zatsiorsky, “Kinematics of human motion”
16. Zatsiorsky, “Kinetics of human motion”
17. Allard, “Three-dimensional analysisi of human movement”

MOTOR CONTROL

1. Schmidt, “Motor control and learning”
2. Schmidt, “Motor learning and performance”
3. Rothwell, “Control of human voluntary movement”
4. Zelaznik, “Advances in motor learning and control”

PHYSIOLOGY

1. Willmore, “Physiology of sport and exercise”
2. Berne, “Fiziologija”
3. Houston, “Biochemistry primer for exercise science”
4. Astrand, “Textbook of work physiology”
5. Guyton, “Medicinska fiziologija”

SPORTS MEDICINE

1. McGill, “Low back disorders”
2. Peterson, “Sport injuries”
3. Bahr, “Clinical guide to sport injuries” 4. Nyska, “The unstable ankle”
4. Ciullo, “Shoulder injuries in sport”
5. Landry, “Essentials of primary care sports medicine”

STRENGTH TRAINING AND CONDITIONING

1. Beachle, “Essentials of strength training and conditioning”
2. NSCA, “Essentials of personal training”
3. Brooks, “The complete book of personal training”
4. Fleck, “Designing resistance training programs”
5. Bompa, “Periodization:Theory and methology of training”
6. Alter, “Science of flexibility”
7. McGill, “Ultimate back fitness and performance”
8. Zatsiorsky, “Science and practice of strength training”
9. Siff, “Supertraining”
10. Siff, “Facts and falacies of fitness”
11. Siff, “Massage and restoration in sport(?)”
12. Boyle, “Functional training for sports”
13. Goldenberg, “Strength ball training”
14. Radcliffe, “High-powered plyometrics”
15. Lee, “Training for speed, agility and quickness”
16. Chu, “Jumping into plyometrics”
17. Dintiman, “Sports speed”
18. Noakes, “Lore of running”
19. Maglischo, “Swimming fastest”
20. Heyward, “Advanced fitness assessment and exercise prescription”
21. Araujo, “Flexitest”
22. Heyward, “Applied body composition assesment”
23. Verkoshansy, “Specific strength in sport (?)”
24. Matveyev, “”
25. Vorobyev, “Textbook of weightlifting”

RESEARCH

1. Thomas, “Research methods in physical activity”
2. Morrow, “Measurement and evaluation in human performance”
3. Vincent, “Statistics in kinesiology”

Nice list, a bunch of books after some reeaserch will become added to my forming collection… Just bought my first proper training book

BTW Doas anyone have a reveiw or has read “science and strength conditioning?”

[Nikoluski]

@duxx

RESEARCH

1. Thomas, “Research methods in physical activity” …

Yes, sure! Don’t forget this one…

[Flash]

Practical question: after reading all of these books, how much of that information actually gets incorporated into the training program? And of that, how much is really beneficial?

It seems that most top coaches don’t develop their methods based on extensive knowledge of the technical literature, but rather from practical experience studying under the tutelage of previously successful coaches, either as athletes or apprentice coaches.

The technical literature hits me more as an after the fact explanation of why proven methods are successful.

[ksnideman]

I must agree with Flash. After a while, collecting and reading countless texts just becomes mental masterbation. Too much information can eventually lead to “paralysis by analysis.” I know this well because I am an avid book collector owning many of the texts mentioned in previous texts. It’s helpful to have these texts as reference materials but some of the kowledge in them isn’t always easily applied in the real world. This is where more applied work by practitioners of their craft (i.e. Charlie Francis and others) has the advantage; many of these skilled individuals have already paved the path to see what works and what doesn’t, regardless of what the textbook say.

[RonS]

@Flash

Practical question: after reading all of these books, how much of that information actually gets incorporated into the training program? And of that, how much is really beneficial?

It seems that most top coaches don’t develop their methods based on extensive knowledge of the technical literature, but rather from practical experience studying under the tutelage of previously successful coaches, either as athletes or apprentice coaches.

The technical literature hits me more as an after the fact explanation of why proven methods are successful.

Those are good points. I myself have incorporated, in my way of thinking, much from Enoka’s text. Rather than having ‘it’ map out my training, knowing some of the info. on recruitment and just where failure is, and why DOMS occurs has really helped me

Ron

[duxx]

but I think combination is the best… you have to have strong theoretical background and surelly be involved in practical training (to feel it, to see it, to hear it…)! If you know some theoretical rules you dont have to make some experimental mistakes, but on the other hand if you know to much (what is too much?) you can be paralysed in making decisions. Everything is a matter of a degree… but some books ara a must!!!

[duxx]

Training is complex… it is bigger than the sum of its components and textbooks only offers “description” of the components! You have to find some set of notions to describe some behaviours found in training and to do that you have to “feel it”! Training is an art form (with some science in it).
Collecting knowledge about the car structure and parts does not mean you will know how to drive it

[acudave]

Duxx,
Thanks for the list. I’ve read most of the NSCA stuff by Kraemer. I know some chapters are good, but the book in general is not. Their was one chapter on weightroom layout. Benches here, platforms here, etc. Why? I would cut out easily half the stuff. The physiology is good, but I would take the authors of the chapters you find most interesting/helpful and read more of their writings. 2cents

[Nikoluski]

For those of you who have the NSCA book, have a look at the pic on page 343 and let me know what you think about it…

Thanks!

[RedPrintz]

How much is the NSCA book and were can you get it?

[bigpump23]

@Nikoluski

For those of you who have the NSCA book, have a look at the pic on page 343 and let me know what you think about it…

Thanks!

what about it? besides the fact that they have 2 spotters for a SMITH machine squat where the lifter has forward excursion of the trunk?

[duxx]

@RedPrintz

How much is the NSCA book and were can you get it?

You can get it at www.humankinetics.com

Essentials of strength training and conditioning
NSCA
Second edition, 2000
Editors: Beachle, T.R; Earle, R.W.
Hardback, 672 pp
$67.00

look also for NSCA Essentials of personal training (same publisher and editors, 2004)