Come on mate we are getting the fools to teach the toe drag and you have to point out this.
T-Slow:
Asafa looked like he had his best drive phase of the season, and his Max Velocity looked totally relaxed. There definitely looks to be more in the tank there! Exciting times for him, he looks like heâs enjoying himself and appears much more confident. I listened to a podcast with his brother / coach Donovan Powell that ESTI sent me the link to, and it sounds like Donovan is a really smart guy with great big picture coaching skills. He said theyâve been very careful coming out of blocks this year, and have been doing pretty much only sub maximal starts just to be on the safe side of injury.
Could you please share the link to the interview?Thank you
T-Slow:
Vicaut look like he lifts his head (with his pelvis correspondingly moving back into an anterior tilt), and starts heel cycling almost immediately. Vicaut is down noticeably at 30m. Once he hits his max V phase things seem to get a whole lot better. Just look at the way Vicaut DESTROYS Collins at Max V- it is not subtle! Vicaut clearly has greater frequency than Collins, and is getting some decent negative foot speed despite not looking to be in the greatest pelvic position. Still, he looked to have some decent hip height and negative foot speed, and had to be striking decently close to bottom dead centre in order to have that frequency.
And this is why I never comment on technique. Guys like you see so much more than I ever will. Great post!
Do you mean that everyone and their brother in your region is instructing the toe drag without direction/planning in a haphazard fashion?
T-Slow:
First of all, Vicautâs start was the shits! Look at how much faster Asafa gets his foot down and starts pushing. There is minimum one hundredth there, probably more like two or three.
Vicaut look like he lifts his head (with his pelvis correspondingly moving back into an anterior tilt), and starts heel cycling almost immediately. Vicaut is down noticeably at 30m. Once he hits his max V phase things seem to get a whole lot better. Just look at the way Vicaut DESTROYS Collins at Max V- it is not subtle! Vicaut clearly has greater frequency than Collins, and is getting some decent negative foot speed despite not looking to be in the greatest pelvic position. Still, he looked to have some decent hip height and negative foot speed, and had to be striking decently close to bottom dead centre in order to have that frequency.
Collins seems like his shin just kind of flops forward and down, touches down, and then moves back- there seems to be less negative foot speed prior to touchdown at Max Velocity.
Remember, Gatlinâs frequency has increased but I will bet you any money his stride length is at least the same. End result: PB. This is Ralph Mann stuff. Maybe the French are sorta catching on to modern Max V mechanics (though Vicautâs pelvic position looked only mediocre), but clearly not the modern start!
Iâd be more inclined to think the âtightnessâ Vicaut displayed was partially due to hitting that tremendous frequency / velocity / rhythm for the first time and thus looking a little tense and uncoordinated, but letâs give the poor guy a break, heâs never âbeen thereâ before. Vicaut definitely dowloaded some big time lessons in todays run!
Asafa looked like he had his best drive phase of the season, and his Max Velocity looked totally relaxed. There definitely looks to be more in the tank there! Exciting times for him, he looks like heâs enjoying himself and appears much more confident. I listened to a podcast with his brother / coach Donovan Powell that ESTI sent me the link to, and it sounds like Donovan is a really smart guy with great big picture coaching skills. He said theyâve been very careful coming out of blocks this year, and have been doing pretty much only sub maximal starts just to be on the safe side of injury. Not only that, but you can bet they arenât training at 5am MVP style in Austin.
Oh- and gotta love the French announcers freaking over Vicautâs time- âQuel chronooo!!! Quel chronoooo!!!â
where is the link to the podcast?
robin1:
Actually, Gatlinâs stride length has decreased by 1-1.5 strides compared to 2006. He was probably over striding back then. His frequency has increased significantly, allowing him to run faster despite taking more strides.
we used to call him the long strider back then. Dennis has changed his form for the best
Check out every female sprinter at oregon. Prandini and todd both have exaggerated toe drags out the blocks.
Prudent to understand would be to know the mechanism of itâs origin with Powell, Bolt⌠and the discretion as to coaches instruction vs natural inclinationâŚ
robin1:
Actually, Gatlinâs stride length has decreased by 1-1.5 strides compared to 2006. He was probably over striding back then. His frequency has increased significantly, allowing him to run faster despite taking more strides.
The 2012-2013 stride length/power development years, i coulda swore he had a sore ankle after his 9.82 OG semifinal(maybe the same with blake after his semi).
lkh
July 6, 2015, 2:40am
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Experiment with pulling heavy sleds or steep hills for a period (more like a season than a couple of weeks) and I think youâll understand.
sady
July 6, 2015, 5:25am
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From an athlete I once coached.
From a biomechanics point of view I wouldnât count on heavy sleds/steep hills, even when performed extensively over the long term, to yield toe drag mechanics upon low starts. I state that because those arenât the only training activities that have the potential to limit heel recovery and, as a result, I believe weâd observe many more sprinters performing the toe drag.
In fact, in my experience, the only training activity Iâve seen that remarkably affected the athleteâs heel recovery was an elastic band contraption attached to the lower leg.
My question pertained to whether or not Bolt, Powell⌠are specifically trained to do it by Mills, FrancisâŚ
X-Man
July 6, 2015, 1:12pm
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does anyone actually know why certain jam elite sprinters drag the toe on the first few steps? what is the logic?
sady:
From an athlete I once coached.
In the archives somewhere before Usain are threads where starts were discussed. In pms I asked Charlie similer and where he would go, his answer was similar.
What a massive calf workout.
BIG burp there from the interviewer at 14.20 lol.
A few reasons would be less vertical projection in the first few steps (more horizontal) another would be to reduce air time so the athlete can re-apply force for the next stride.