Loren (correct spelling right here) is a good guy, would give you the shirt off his back. Always interesting to talk to about the coaching game and the money caper. I know he’s not real popular on this forum, but you don’t have to slag the guy. Charlie has his ways and he has correctly picked out a fault here and there in Loren’s ideas - most notably the down-and-rake-backwards action at contact. Tellez isn’t Charlie’s cup of tea either, but they both agree on the simpl up-down function for the best contact. Loren was keen to meet Charlie and learn off him. I facilitated the meeting at Charlie’s home when Loren was working with BJ on Ben’s comeback. Charlie was the perfect host, but nothing much more came of it…other than I think I’m still repeating from the Mexican pizza. Loren’s work with Ben came to nothing, but it was always going to be a losing proposition for anyone to match up to Charlie as coach to Ben.
I guess what I’m trying to get across here is you (the generic “you”, not specifically sady) can disagree with someone without going to the point of hating them. Loren has always had a huge respect for Charlie’s knowledge and I’ve never heard him put shit on CF although he well could have (1988 and all that).