A little on T-Mont

Verizon Men’s 60 meters
Prelims Saturday 3:15 p.m., 5:10 p.m.; Final Saturday 7:23 p.m.
World record: 6.39, Maurice Greene (USA), 1998, 2001
American record: 6.39, Maurice Greene, 1998, 2001
Meet record: 6.39, Maurice Greene, 2001

THE SCOOP: Terrence Trammell is the favorite after winning the Verizon Millrose Games and Tyson Foods Invitational in the 60m sprint – if he chooses the 60 sprint over the 60m hurdles. The 2001 World Indoor hurdles champion, Trammell also is the defending U.S. 60m sprint champion, and his time of 6.46 at the Tyson Foods Invitational on Feb. 15 is the fastest in the world this year. However, the meet schedule seems to prevent Trammell from competing in both events – he’d have to run six races in one day! With Maurice Greene withdrawing from the race due to a pulled calf muscle, the top contenders will be 2000 Olympic Trials 200m champion John Capel, who was a close second to Trammell at Tyson, and Justin Gatlin, the former NCAA champion who was second at Verizon Millrose. Coby Miller, the 2001 indoor 200m champ, has shown excellent speed this year in Europe as well. Wild cards are Tim Harden, the 2001 World Indoor gold medalist, and Tim Montgomery, the outdoor world record holder in the 100m and the 2001 World Indoor silver medalist. Montgomery has entered the USA Indoor Championships, but not until declarations are final just prior to the meet will it be known if he will take to the starting line. Montgomery has not raced since running 9.78 seconds to break the 100m world record September 14 at the Grand Prix Final in Paris, but he is reported to be extremely fit.

I wonder why?:wink:

I personally am excited to see Tim run. I know that last year he had a good indoor season, but needed to make some changes to his start. I am betting he has worked out those bugs and is on track for a good season.

I agree Herb, a little bit of work with Charlie tremendously outweighs any time spent with the Raleigh group. What a joke that group is. Who would not be succesful with talent that they have had?

I hate to rain on your parade.

BOSTON, Feb 25 (Reuters) - World 100 metres record holder Tim Montgomery has decided not to compete in this weekend’s U.S. indoor championships, his agent said.

“He is training for the outdoor season and won’t compete in the (indoor) championships,” Charles Wells told Reuters in a telephone interview from New York.

Montgomery filed an entry last week for the U.S. championships, scheduled for Friday to Sunday in Boston, but decided not to participate.

He has not competed since setting the 100 metres world record of 9.78 seconds in Paris in September.

His decision means the United States will be missing its two top sprinters at the championships, which serve as the qualifiers for the March 14-16 world indoor championships in Birmingham, England.

World indoor 60 metres record holder Maurice Greene announced earlier last week he was abandoning his indoor season because of a calf injury.

Is there any news on who Tim and Marion’s new coach is or will be??

I’ve heard nothing over here in the UK.

I heard he’s just going to coach himself.

Tim probably learned enough from CF in such a short time that there is no doubt he could do a better job than Graham could.

Anyone can tell someone “Look for ants” and “hot knees”. I know a few middle-schoolers they could get to say that. Maybe we should start a thread on T.G. Training Quotes.

I know it’s easy to criticize Trevor Graham, but he is still probably a decent coach. I would be thrilled to have a good sprint coach in my town, heck any sprint coach.

besides less then ideal training cues (ie look for ants and hot knees), why is trevor graham such a bad coach? i don’t know much about him, so i’m seriously asking this question.

I hate to be a party pooper, but whatever kind of coach he is, MJ and TM did okay. I know a couple of coaches I would like to flame, but it doesn´t do me any good, or those coaches.

I have done some dumb things as a coach, but have also seen good success with some athletes I have coached. But I would hate to have you guys start analysing me and my methods, because you would always find something.

I have been both lucky and unlucky as an athlete - have had good and bad coaches, but the bad coaches probably motivated me more than the good ones to TRY to help other athletes as a coach and/or sport scientist.

But let´s give the guy a break and try to be positive in how we can do better with our athletes. I have often bitched about coaches who I thought were poor, but I doubt that it improved my coaching, or assisted my athletes. And in all honesty, I usually bitched about `successful´ coaches, not the ones whose guys were running high 10´s, or 49 sec 400´s. Envy may have been part of my motivation.

I´ll get off my pulpit now. I just think that this forum is great, and we should keep the standards high, and not get involved in pettiness. That´s my opinion.

Good advice Carson.

One thing you can say for Trevor- Compare his injury rate with that of alot of other, more respected coaches. You will see it is alot lower.

Sorry, but the best I could say is decent for him. I’ll repeat what I said before that any number of people on this site could achieve equal or better success than a guy who tells people to “look for ants.” One thought is that if the indoor facility the athlete is competing in is adequately maintained then an athlete could stay down for the entire 60m and not see one single ant. I’m going to try to dig up the old T&FN article where he went on and on about how he had all of this supposed knowledge but no one to prove it with until Marion. Has he really proven anything with Marion? Doesn’t her 100 pr date back at least 3-4 years-10.65 at altitude in South Africa? It must be some sort of reverse periodization method where you run slower over time but that’s okay because it was planned to work out that way. Just being petty. I’m not giving him any breaks. Give any number of people the opportunity to work with the pure talent that he has and people would see this.

It does me some good so I’ll just remain petty.

Let’s be careful here. Who says anyone can handle a top athlete with success? This just clearly cannot be the case or there’d be a hell of a lot more top athletes out there. We know these athletes had high level results while there.

Having the physica ability as an athlete is probably not even half the challenge.

As a coach understanding what the physical abilities and training methods is probably the same. The mental ability of the athlete will make them, but the approach the coach takes to this athlete could make or break them.

The training you do is the key, but the communication and coaching approach to the athlete is the door.

Charlie, I’m not saying anyone but I believe a number of people could have that success or better given that level of talent to work with. I feel that though program design is certainly not the only thing necessary for success-one might not know how to manage it properly-it is certainly a big part. From what I’ve seen on this site, people here could do a much better job in assembling a training program for athletes of that caliber than the program that I’ve seen attributed to that other camp though the low injury rate is certainly an important aspect to success for if they are injured they surely are not training fully or competing.

Trust me! I dont think anyone has to worry about Pioneer and myself being envious about this coach. Speaking in my behalf, I do not claim to be a guru, but I do know bad training protocols when I see them. As I discussed in a previous thread, I have bailed out a couple of athletes who have had bad experiences under his system. I am not claiming to be more knowledgeable, I just feel that training ideas such as "monday: intensive tempo, tuesday: stadiums & speed endurance, followed by a speed day on wdnseday with 15-18 block starts, prior to the actual workout is unreasonable for the most fit of athletes. Oh well.

I think where the coach in question could have improved is in the area of humility – deferring to experts who could have complemented whatever abilities he brought to the table. I’ve always been a big believer of surrounding myself with good people, rather than trying to run the show myself for the sake of getting all the credit.

I think that Charlie’s success has shown that this type of arrangement works best, as it is very difficult to be a jack-of-all-trades, particularly when you have a large group of athletes to oversee.