Charlie, so would it be wise to go into the L-S after completing S-L indoors for a 400m runner?
Hi Charlie
If the 400 s-to-l has just one spp of 12 weeks and the gpp is 5 weeks and assuming that training commences at the beginning of October then competition would begin around end of January in time for the indoor season. Does that mean we should repeat the spp for the outdoor season?
I am not Charlie, of course, but in my opinion it wouldn’t be wise. You could switch from season to season, if needed.
You can be very creative and productive with S-L SpecEnd emphasis from indoors to outdoors. Particularly if the training year extends into summer comp. Of course much would depend on maturation of the athlete and technical compliance with the event, IMO.
The SPP and '04 Vancouver downloads provide some good insights and criteria for such direction.
How about focusing on accelerations and max velocity in SPP1 and then doing 400m s-to-l for SPP2?
you have great flexibility to do what works but I don’t think you would want to move too far from where you left off. The next GPP would be very short- little more than recovery, so, depending on the lenght of the previous competition period, you able to move back in to the next SPP close to where you left off.
Since progress will have been made in SPP 1, you would make the weekly shifts more gradual the next time through.
thoughts??
The S-to-L already does much of that but if you have an athlete where there is a great deal to develope there, that could be done. The issue then would be ending indoor comp early enough to allow time for the full GPP1 shown.
Charlie
Are you then saying that it is possible to do the 400 s-to-l template as SPP1 which builds up to 300 and split 400 runs, and then going l-to-s in SPP2 starting from 2x300 and 2x600 downwards (as in the l-to-s Vancouver template) for the 200/100 type? I had toyed with this in my mind for my athlete as it would allow him to start the l-to-s with far higher quality. My only concern was the lack of time to develop the max velocity speed component.
I don’t see why you’d need a 400 template for a 100/200 athlete. Why not use the templates created for those events? If this is a first time into the longer territory for a 100/200 sprinter, it might indeed take too long to recover from the additional load and bring speed up fully.
Thanks
I’ll stick to what I had intended which is split runs leading into the 300’s and 600’s. I was just wondering whether it was possible to hit the 300’s and 600’s with a greater level of readiness and how that might have impacted on overall performance by season’s end.
Going back to the original thread. It does appear from the 400 s-to-l template that the components are pretty much in place for the athlete by the time the 12 weeks are up (and as was borne out by the 50.22 performance of the athlete). Where does the coach/athlete go from here in SPP2? Over and under distance work (e.g one session- 300’s another session- 500’s)? What about speed retention? The last 5 weeks saw the dropping of the 60’s and f-e-f runs. Does the athlete try to mix these in again even though the SE is intensifying further?
If the coach feels that the athlete is still in need of some speed work, what are the possible pitfalls in adding a max velocity day to the final 5 weeks of a set-up like the s-to-l 400m template (which reduces to two SE days and one strength endurance day due to the intensification of the special endurance)? If I separated the SE days from Monday and Thursday to Monday and Friday and put in 2x2 flying 20’s on a Wednesday could this work?
I would go with speed on the monday (when fresher) and speed endurance on wednesday and friday.
Thanks PhilG
So in principle you are saying that adding the extra speed day is not a problem.
Including speed is rarely a bad idea, particularly if you have identified a specific need. The speed endurance will not tax the cns the same as the speed would so you should be okay with the wed/fri combination. Just make sure the recovery occurs over the weekend to allow freshness by monday so the speed session is effective.
Thanks PhilG
F.e. the actual workout for the very first monday looks like this?
4X10
4X20
4X20 blocks
4x60 (20E/20F/20E)
4X60
2.5’ rest
For some sessions the volume seems huge, for example:
4X30
4X30 blocks
4x60 (7’ rest)
4x60 (20E/20F/20E)
You excuse I wanted to know the recovery among the 30 tests and then among the easy fast
thanks thousand
4X30
4X30 block
4x60 (7’ rest)
4x60 (20E/20F/20E)
What does everyone think of a program that would include the Short to Long Monday (done on monday) with the Long to short Thursday(done on Wednesday)?
I think it has definite possibilities.
I was thinking of it as a way of possibly getting quicker results with athletes who were either lazy during GPP or join the team late. I would increast the rest a bit on the monday’s to give the workouts more of a speed element. I can’t see it being too much on the CNS because of the long day…