2010 NFL Combine

Have you ever played football? Your post didn’t make any sense you said faster or quicker… Quicker means side 2 side, lateral/deceleration speed.

Yea I played a lil semi pro as a running back. Well I guess I have been out of football for a while. I didnt know that being quicker than someone means u can move from side to side. my bad. I guess. So are you gonna answer my question?

Who knows, too many variables.

Yeh, who is Trindon training with? Dickerson is really a WR, so it’s like Andre Johnson running.

I saw an article that said he was training in Florida with Mike Gough.

I’m surprise Moffit is not a Gough fan.

Should have sticked to train like he did all years…those combine guru usually sucks…still canno t understand how you US guys can trust those manuale ( or semi automatic) combine times…there is no way to know if 34 is faster than 26 in these conditions.

With Trindon position and draft status I would have stayed at LSU and ran indoor track while making a small adjustments to his upper body strength training.

I’m writing this on my blackberry from Indianapolis so bare with me:
Dorin’s official results are as follows:
24 reps with 225 (4th best of the TE)
43.5 vertical jump (1st place TE)
4.40 40yd dash (1st place TE), they clocked him at 23.1mph
10.5 standing long jump (1st or 2nd of the TE not sure)
6.96 L Drill (not sure his rank)
4.3 20yd shuttle (I didn’t get the hundredth value) (not sure his rank)

NFL.com will list the numbers and rank once they’re all in the system.

All in all a very good day. We’re both feeling great about his performance.
I wasn’t impressed at all with Trindon Holiday’s mechanics; most notably his arm action. Very little movement at the shoulder. Impressive that he ran as well as he did despite this glaring mechanical deficiency. Surprising that he runs that way despite his track background and whoever’s been coaching him for the combine.

I’m looking forward to watching C.J. Spiller tomorrow. He runs beautifully during games so it will be interesting to see what he puts down for his 40.

Very true. I (like everyone else) am annoyed that they don’t make the move to automatic timing. There are multiple videos on youtube that you can download and time frame by frame and/or pause during the first step to see how far off the timing can be (on the order of supposed 4.2-4.3 guys running over 4.40 from the point of toe off at the start).

If you watch Trindon track vids his arm movement is very similar. I think CJ will run 4.3’s, don’t see him going 4.2. Met CJ couple months ago when he came up to get ARP from Dennis.

yea trindon has always had ugly mechanics. but it works for him.

Does anyone know how they are timing this year?

James Smith Perhaps??

I think last year it was said that it was a hand timer on the athletes first movement and laser at the finish. Then I remember someone saying it was an average between that and 3 scouts hand times. lol

We all know that Holiday is as just as fast if not faster than Demps and Demps has already ran 6.60 in the 60m this season with a 6.62 in trials today at SEC’s. We also know Spiller is around the same if not faster so It’ll be interesting to see what all these guys who are in the same “boat” run in the combine 40. That waY we may be able to make a generalization and say that a 6.5-6 60m track guy runs a 4.2-4.3 40 which will call bullshit on all these 4.4 high school hand time guys who would be lucky to run sub 7.2 in the 60 myself included who has a pr of 7.09 and has run 4.4 handtimed 40’s.

Same as always, hand start and auto finish. Can’t judge CJ and Trindon to Demps who is in track shape.

There are two different electronic timing systems set up with gates at 10yd, 20yd, and 40yd line.

They are both started manually.

They are there only to provide the hand timers with something to compare their watches to.

The unofficial times you see reported on the television are hand times. The official times are usually an aggregate of the hand time and the laser; although this is inconsistent because it’s not always an accurate average of the two.

The laser times are not revealed to the public; however, I’ve seen them and they’re generally .10 slower than the unnoffical times.

Also important to note is that all the NFL personnel you see in the bleachers, on the 10, 20, and 40yd lines, have their own stop watch and data recording sheet.

As a result, while the NFL network publishes their version of the times on the TV and internet, each of the 32 teams has their own version of the time according to what their scout/coach recorded on their respective watch.

My suggestion to viewers is to accept the unofficial times as a reference point because those are hand times. If you want to form some sort of comparison to track sprinters then add the accepted differentials for human error and no reaction time and make the necessary conversions from the first 40yd segment of a 60 or 100m and you’ll get an idea of how these American footballers compare.

So those times mean nothing then. The difference in reaction from person to person and if they have a different person starting the clock could be huge. I’m guessing that the combine would lose some of its luster if they went to full FAT and times didn’t dip under 4.40.

It’s all about hype and making money.

CJ teammate Ford ran 4.27 unofficial.
Tebow unofficial 4.70

I clocked Ford at sub 4.3 on my watch as well.

Ford official 4.28.

CJ unofficial 4.28…