Was Drummond ripped off

Irrespective of being a medal contender JD showed no respect for his fellow competitors who deserved their place in that race and did not need to be a party to what eventuated.

There are a few points to come out of this that need to be addressed.

There seems to be some confusion with the false start rule, it needs to be addressed and consistently applied. JD sensors went off prior to the gun, are the rules clear on what that means?

Second the inclusion of the rest of the world to make up numbers…

I agree that the world champs are not improved when people are let in that run 18s irrespective of what country they come from.

Its the World champs not the UN, set a standard and let anyone who runs the time in. Let it be a world championships, where the best runners in the world can perform against the best.

Third, in my opinion JD’s antics cannot be justified when they impinge on the right of other athletes to compete in a “fair” environment.

I actually agree with amlost everything you’ve said above DW - execpt for the following …

I would regard rules as unbreakable especailly on the day of competition, where everyone is in the heat of the battle etc.

Otherwise - anybody could raise a fuss and create a scene to be allowed run, whether guilty of a transgression or not.

Do you not also agree that the more human decisions are taken out of the equation the easier it is to adjudicate and the less chance of cheating?

How can someone wired tightly go quietly?
How can someone with severe brain damage score
high on an IQ test?

Drummond made a stand I respect that.

Could someone post the rule?

referring to drummonds reaction:
Whos to judge what is right and wrong. The society, government, ourselves, religion. Whats right or wrong for one person doesnt nessarily mean it is right or wrong for the next.

personally i think it should have been treated as a “faulty start” and give everyone a final warning.JD didn’t actually false start,he didn’t leave the blocks.he didn’t lift his hands off the track.his foot moved in the block triggering the pressure sensor.come on thats not a false start.a touch of nerveousness can have that effect on any athlete whether you are carl lewis or john drommond.

i think the whole hoop laa surriunding the start was not needed.ok he was treated infairly but he shouldn’t have taken it to those extremes.patrick johnson got a raw deal and hes the guy i felt sorry for.JD said this was his turn for gold,don;t think so!

At the very least they should have just ran the race and then worked through the rules afterwards. It would have prevented the delay, and a better decision would have been reached outside the heat of the moment. However is there a rule that says you actually have to leave the blocks for a false start? In Barcelona didn’t something similar happen to Leroy Burrell? The indecisevness of the officials was sickening. ANYTHING would have been better than what they did, which in essence was absolutely nothing.

Alex correct about leroy burrell.he twitched and triggered the sensor which caused him the olympic gold.what did he do? he got on with it,no bull**** no delay.with the pressure sensor on the blocks it really hard to define the difference between a false start and a faulty start.when the hands are lifted pressure will be applied to the blocks via the feet but in JD’s situation he twitched to trigger it off.

highly debatable and could cause alot more troubles unless improved

How about we stop using this as an excuse for PJ’s poor performance. The guy clearly wasn’t even in sub 10.20 form, period, next time around maybe, he has talent :stuck_out_tongue:

Aln how can you justify your last post on PJ.of course he was on form with a 9.93 weeks ago.he was running consistantly on the tour and was shaping up again for preparation for the WC’s.his heat was a shambles and would cause any athlete to lose concentration.with the whole hoop la going on and waiting around for a further 25mins this would be like a damp squib,adrenilen would be sapped.

Sorry Xman, Aln is totally correct. When PJ’s love handles appear and his upper body shrinks his acceleration leaves him.

I really like the guy, think he is a fantastic ambassador for the sport and hope that Esa has learnt a lot from this year. They are obviously doing the right things but unfortuntately they aren’t doing them at the right time. He looked really upset after he was knocked out of the 200m.

Just got this via e-mail

Time runs out for Seiko
From Craig Lord in Fukuoka

Fina, the international governing body, has washed its hands of the
controversial Seiko timing system that was used for the world championships
in Fukuoka by announcing a three-event deal with Swiss Timing.

The deal will cover the world short-course championships in Moscow next year
and the world championships (long-course) in Barcelona in 2003 and Montreal
in 2005. Sam Ramsamy, spokesperson for Fina and a member of the
International OLympic Committee, said: “We’ve no qualms about the system as
such - it has a fine reputation in international events.”

Perhaps no longer, after a spate of incorrect times at the Marine Messe pool
that had to be adjusted by either the back-up timing or by using video
evidence. The issue has never been as controversial, unprecedented as it is
to have the main timing system fail as frequently as it has done in Fukuoka.

If any explanation was forthcoming from Fina, which made its answers on the
issue as evasive as possible yesterday, then it was that swimmers were to
blame. Cornel Marculescu, Director of Fina, said that swimmers “had to hit
it (electronic timing pad) in the right way” because the system was not
geared to register a “soft” touch.

It required a pressure of at least 1.5kg to recognise a swimmer’s touch.
That the swimmer must adjust to the electronic timing equipment and not the
equipment to the swimmer is a bizarre situation that no-one can remember
ever happening before, not even in the world of Masters swimming, where
octogenarians compete and are likely to have a very soft touch indeed by the
end of races. “I can’t remember it ever having been a problem at that
level,” said

Derek Parr, a journalist at the championships in Fukuoka who is also a world
masters butterfly champion in his age group. Ramsamy said that Fina
"genuinely and honestly believe that no swimmer and no team has been
prejudiced by what has happened.

In sports, losers do complain." It was a bizarre answer to a question that
simply will not go away. One news agency was today displaying pictures that
clearly show the video finish of a race telling one result and the
subsequent result showing something quite different. In one case the timing
system had recorded a time 1.1 seconds adrift the time that eventually
appeared on the result sheet.

Fina said that the timing back-up system employed when the pads at the end
of lanes failed to register a result on the scoreboard, or registered an
incorrect result, had worked “in all cases” in Fukuoka. Again, it blamed
sore losers, saying: "In all sports, there are individuals and teams who do
not necessarily agree with the results. Swimming is no exception.

Its unfortunate that Pat appears not to need to many chances to loose a race mentally, and his running slow over the last few weeks would not imbue confidence in himself at the WC.

Agreed its a timing thing so hopefully Esaw will at the very least mimic the training earlier in the year and apply it to what PJ does before he races at Athens. He can swap all the training he did prior to WC’s for the Aussie season and run the 10.3/10.4s at home.