Training for skating vs. sprinting

Why? I was thinking of introducing a scooter training system. Oh! I forgot, they have one already. It’s called JK.
Seriously Firebird. Tell me how exactly a skating treadmill would be a benefit to hockey players?
One point worth mentionning is that hockey players have an extroardinary number of asthmatics, which, I believe stems from the Zamboni machines that are working all day long in arenas. Outdoor training off-season is a great benefit in this case and so there’d better be a great reason to do more heavy breathing indoors than is the case already.

let’s talk about these hockey T-mills. Are we kidding here?

I´m not :confused:

Wow, uh ok.

Why not a skateboard then. You can work on your stabilizers a lot more that way.

No time to learn how to “ride” on skateboards.

I guess the first question would be what are you using it for? (treadmill)

What is the purpose of your training? (what quality are you trying to improve?)

If it is speed?
You can not apply a powerful application of force to a moving object (the surface must be immobile). The treadmill surfaces move!

To improve speed you must improve propulsion capabilities (the ability to apply fore quickly).

Most people have the ability to create a high frequency with their legs in the air (in between contact), however, ground contact (propulsion phase) becomes the limiting factor.

Treadmills do not allow athletes the opportunity to apply force long enough because the ground is moving (treadmill). Frequency is increased at the expense of stride length. When this happens triple extension of the ankle, knee, and hip are altered and athletes are not able to generate the forces needed to improve speed (technique is compromised).

Hill work and flat ground work is your best choice, other than training on ice, to improve speed and technique.

I do not this “crazy” method yet but some coach said that in my strides i´m not aplying forces to the ground properly, also he said that my style of stride/footstrike is totaly useless for sprints, he use to say that i´m just “jumping” over track and not pushing the floor backward, so, that´s why he was thinking introduce this “method”.
He believe this will help me on this problem giving me power on my legs and teaching me how to aply forces producing eficient movements on the track.

It sounds like you may need to get with a coach who can help you. Any one can lean the basics to the skill. A number of hockey players I have worked with (14-18 yo) reach with the fore leg, instead of allowing things to happen (falling on the front foot C of G above the leg). If you reach, you block, and pull to long (your mass is too far behind you) not efficient.

Hill runs (the hill incline will assist you in getting in to proper positions, helping you learn how to apply force). You can also lean with straight body against a wall, tree, fence and bringing the knee up towards the chest, foot behind the knee (keep your shin angle = to your body angle) this is the acceleration posture. Many athletes will reach the foot forward to meet the ground. You must relax the leg and let the energy from the ground contact bring the leg back up (like a ball bouncing). Just keep returning the foot to the starting position (side by side and behind you) and you will start to get the feel of pushing and not reaching, relaxing and not forcing. As you feel it in slow motion, you can begin picking up the speed, if you loose your posture, stop and start over.

Push-up starts (starting on your stomach), falling starts, these are good methods of finding good posture for acceleration work. I would also video tape your runs and see for your self and compare to good sprinters.

Thanks NAP, and what about pushing a byke ? for 20m distance ?

I have never pushed a bike or anything like that, so I am not sure how that would work.