Your on crack if you think that guy from west virginia is better than tim tebow. Tim tebow has destroyed every HS record in florida… Won state championships… Went to florida, won heisman 3x finalist nat champ. more and more records…
Or i guess you can continually attribute his success to everyone around him. I guess his ability to truck people, his 4.7 40 at 240 pounds his cannon arm, his incredibly low interception rate, his Coach cliaming he’s the best player hes ever seen… Tebow has been an absolute QB prodigy since his sophomore year of HS…
but im sure that guy from West VA is better. What do all of those scouts know? they’re just racist… give me a break
TG ran a faster 40 than most of the non-white RBs at the combine and historically as well. Fat lards like Lendale White get drafted early when they have minimal work ethic and were surrounded by greats.
Even if there was any merit in your argument (there isn’t), you are doing a very poor job at presenting it because Vince Young/JaMarcus Russell/and even Mike Vick are jokes at the QB position relative to the rest of the NFL. Just terrible QBs. Great athletes and ‘playmakers’ I suppose, but they are not great leaders or quarterbacks by any means and were all drafted significantly higher than Tebow with lesser accolades.
Leadership, are you in the locker room with these guys? Shit I’ll take Lendale White college/NFL production he had in 2009 when he got more carries. Like I said keep hoping for the next “great white hope”. Remember everyone can’t be a workout freak like you, guys like Lendale are fat asses but can still ball.
lol I did believe that he wouldn’t go until the 2nd or 3rd round. I am surprised to say the least and I DO think it was a bad decision, but I don’t think it was based on him being white, considering people with just as awful mechanics and lesser accolades have been drafted earlier, while not being white.
Fogelson, I agree on everything you just wrote.
Vick is no prototype QB, but would have been foolish to overlook him just for that.
However, we’ll see…I’m a great Tebow fan since his first year at Florida…he’ll be a winner in the NFL too, provided he has some smart OC and HC around.
Scouts have their ideas, not always do the smartest move.
Maybe the reason for a lack of good white running backs and receivers is the fact that whites are seldom given as much of a chance at that position on the football field and are told their whole life that they aren’t as good of an athlete. They are discouraged at every level that I’m aware of. My high school was probably the worst example I know of. I think it’s funny how much people attribute to nature and genetics yet ignore lifestyle. For example…I would agree with the assertion that on average, a high school age black male will be faster than a white counterpart. I do not, however, think it’s genetics. I think it’s lifestyle. It seems that nearly EVERY black male I knew in high school played a sport and was physically active. The white boys, on the other hand, were usually couch potatos who played no sports and went home to play video games every day.
Really jokes? Vick changed the game. Defenses coaches had to scheme to stop him. Speed. and a hell of an arm. May not be the most accurate but its not like he was surrounded by playmaker receivers. Same with young. I dont even know why you mentioned russell in the same breath as vick and young.
Neither of them have done a damn thing positive and, at best, were mediocre QBs who were athletic to make plays at times, but failed to lead their offenses–let alone their teams–at any point. I can name 5+ “white” QBs who were not drafted within the first round who have done more than either of them within the same era.
People have to adjust to Vick–that isn’t a testament to his abilities, but to his playing style. People have to adopt to everybody they play and he plays a very unorthodox style. Unorthodox =/= better or he would have something to show for it in his ratings or W/L.
Lendale White can’t break 12 and he was given a shot, even though he showed up to the combine fat and weak and was a back-up in college. TG has done as much or more than White ever did and wasn’t drafted in the first.
There is some pretty heavy stuff being dropped on both sided of the race coin. It almost sounds like the hes balck so he is a better athlete, while the white guy is smarter. Takes me back to Johnson and Bird. Speed is great, but you still need to be tough. Plenty of Toby Gerharts have done well in NFL. Its a style, not a skin color issue. I do disagree about Young more than Vick. Young is a leader. He has had pretty good success in the league. Vick has too, but he isn’t much of a leader in the huddle. People rally around Young. The whole white receiver thing is stupid. Look over the years, Biletnekoff, Largent, McCaffrey, Chrebet, Welker. All damn good football players. If this is the way people continue to think, then we will see few black QB’s and less white RB’s and WR. I f**cking hate the racism. I played college ball at and don’t remember this much ignorance. I am just so sick of skin color being such an issue. I am sure when the NBA draft comes around, it will be Gordon Hayward is the next Larry Bird. No wonder this country is so divided.