Tebow

I’m gonna be like the rest of you guys, there aren’t any good white rb’s or wr’s. Toby is a heavy footed rb and will be a bust if drafted in the first three rd’s. Jordan the wr from Texas, not even going there. There’s a reason why scouts don’t look for white wr’s/rb’s.

I was refuting your statement that black qb’s don’t get opportunities.

Where in my post does it say “I” think he’s a first round pick genius?

I do not think he is BUT Denver does. Vick, Jamarcus, Campbell and probably Young should not have been first rounders, at least they should not have been picked until late like Tebow and Campbell was.

They were all hyped except for Campbell, Gm’s bought into the hype and draft guys who shouldn’t be first rounders.

Give me a break!

mcnabb Great.

leftwich Proven qb, better then Tebow will ever be. He will ball out the first 6 games this yr for Pitt.

Jamarcus He’s not black. LOL

Jason campbell Good solid qb.

Vince young - Don’t understand the hate towards Vince, he was a better qb and athlete then Tebow coming out of college.

Michael Vick BEAST1

Are you from Mississippi?

Yeah and an Alabama football fan. And no I am not what you are alluding to.

Your on crack if you think that guy from west virginia is better than tim tebow. Tim tebow has destroyed every HS record in florida… Won state championships… Went to florida, won heisman 3x finalist nat champ. more and more records…

Or i guess you can continually attribute his success to everyone around him. I guess his ability to truck people, his 4.7 40 at 240 pounds his cannon arm, his incredibly low interception rate, his Coach cliaming he’s the best player hes ever seen… Tebow has been an absolute QB prodigy since his sophomore year of HS…

but im sure that guy from West VA is better. What do all of those scouts know? they’re just racist… give me a break

TG ran a faster 40 than most of the non-white RBs at the combine and historically as well. Fat lards like Lendale White get drafted early when they have minimal work ethic and were surrounded by greats.

Even if there was any merit in your argument (there isn’t), you are doing a very poor job at presenting it because Vince Young/JaMarcus Russell/and even Mike Vick are jokes at the QB position relative to the rest of the NFL. Just terrible QBs. Great athletes and ‘playmakers’ I suppose, but they are not great leaders or quarterbacks by any means and were all drafted significantly higher than Tebow with lesser accolades.

Leadership, are you in the locker room with these guys? Shit I’ll take Lendale White college/NFL production he had in 2009 when he got more carries. Like I said keep hoping for the next “great white hope”. Remember everyone can’t be a workout freak like you, guys like Lendale are fat asses but can still ball.

FOG, I thought Tebow was gonna be a third rd pick. :slight_smile:

lol I did believe that he wouldn’t go until the 2nd or 3rd round. I am surprised to say the least and I DO think it was a bad decision, but I don’t think it was based on him being white, considering people with just as awful mechanics and lesser accolades have been drafted earlier, while not being white.

Fogelson, I agree on everything you just wrote.
Vick is no prototype QB, but would have been foolish to overlook him just for that.
However, we’ll see…I’m a great Tebow fan since his first year at Florida…he’ll be a winner in the NFL too, provided he has some smart OC and HC around.
Scouts have their ideas, not always do the smartest move.

Can’t lead unless you play!! :wink:

Maybe the reason for a lack of good white running backs and receivers is the fact that whites are seldom given as much of a chance at that position on the football field and are told their whole life that they aren’t as good of an athlete. They are discouraged at every level that I’m aware of. My high school was probably the worst example I know of. I think it’s funny how much people attribute to nature and genetics yet ignore lifestyle. For example…I would agree with the assertion that on average, a high school age black male will be faster than a white counterpart. I do not, however, think it’s genetics. I think it’s lifestyle. It seems that nearly EVERY black male I knew in high school played a sport and was physically active. The white boys, on the other hand, were usually couch potatos who played no sports and went home to play video games every day.

No its genetics. Read Charlie’s books. Not to say that there arent any fast whites. BUt blacks are generally faster. How many non blacks have broken 10flat…We are still waiting on that.

Really jokes? Vick changed the game. Defenses coaches had to scheme to stop him. Speed. and a hell of an arm. May not be the most accurate but its not like he was surrounded by playmaker receivers. Same with young. I dont even know why you mentioned russell in the same breath as vick and young.

Too funny, but the truth…

Neither of them have done a damn thing positive and, at best, were mediocre QBs who were athletic to make plays at times, but failed to lead their offenses–let alone their teams–at any point. I can name 5+ “white” QBs who were not drafted within the first round who have done more than either of them within the same era.

People have to adjust to Vick–that isn’t a testament to his abilities, but to his playing style. People have to adopt to everybody they play and he plays a very unorthodox style. Unorthodox =/= better or he would have something to show for it in his ratings or W/L.

Lendale White can’t break 12 and he was given a shot, even though he showed up to the combine fat and weak and was a back-up in college. TG has done as much or more than White ever did and wasn’t drafted in the first.

Toby will be backing up AD, he won’t get many touches but when he does his ass will get rocked. Great kid but just not enough shake and bake.

I can remember Keith Connor saying the only reason white is not as fast as black is the white don’t have the same motivation. A black guy is president things are changing.

On a different note, Mack Brown is a douche.

You TX boys think Colt is gonna make it in the league, do any better than Tebow? His ass couldn’t make it 5 plays against Bama before he got knocked outta the damn game.